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Old 23-07-14, 10:28
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Helping a lady I know with her family tree. This is what she has told me.

Her grandmother, Lily Kavanagh, was born in Ireland in about 1903. Lily and her sisters Winifred, Lizzie, and Nellie, settled in Grimsby. Lily married John Kinnaird in Grimsby in 1925. Lily's death was registered in Grimsby in September 1940.

I think this is the Kavanagh family in Dublin in 1911.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...ildings/96826/

Glasthule Buildings, Kingstown, Dublin

Michael Kavanagh, 36, general labourer, RC, b Co Dublin, read and write
Rose, Kavanagh, 37, wife, RC, b Co Dublin, can't read
Mary Kavanagh, 15, daughter, RC, b Co Dublin, read and write
Winafred Kavanagh, 13, daughter, scholar, RC, b Co Dublin, read and write
Rosanna Kavanagh, 11, daughter, scholar, RC, b Co Dublin, read and write
Elizabeth Kavanagh, 10, daughter, scholar, RC, b Co Dublin, read only
Ellen Kavanagh, 4, daughter, RC, b Co Dublin
Michael, Kavanagh 7, son, RC, b Co Dublin
Catherine Kavanagh, 8 months, RC, b Co Dublin

Married 15 years, 7 children, 7 still living

But where is Lily? Can anyone find her, please?
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Old 23-07-14, 10:45
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Or has my contact got confused and Lily is actually Elizabeth/Lizzie?
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Old 23-07-14, 10:49
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Helping a lady I know with her family tree. This is what she has told me.

Her grandmother, Lily Kavanagh, was born in Ireland in about 1903. Lily and her sisters Winifred, Lizzie, and Nellie, settled in Grimsby. Lily married John Kinnaird in Grimsby in 1925. Lily's death was registered in Grimsby in September 1940.
If she had a sister Lizzie then Lily must be missing on the census.
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Old 23-07-14, 10:55
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On the census form the couple say they have 7 children and 7 are still living.
There are 7 children on the form, so they are all accounted for.
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Old 23-07-14, 10:56
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Does your friend have Lily's marriage certificate? It would be interesting to know who her father was.
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Old 23-07-14, 11:23
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I'll ask her. I know that Lily had a four-year-old child when she got married in 1925.

This looks like Michael and Rose Kavanagh in Byrne's Court, Kingstown in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...Part_/1319907/

They appear to have misplaced Mary and Winifred, as the only child recorded is one-year-old, Rose.

Kingstown is the former name of DĂșn Laoghaire.

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Old 23-07-14, 11:30
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I've found Mary and Winifred in 1901 - recorded as grand-nieces.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...Court/1318514/

Bryan's Court, Kingstown

James Cowley, 32, single, gen lab, read, RC, b Co Dublin
Elizabeth Kavanagh, 43, widow, RC, can not read, b Co Dublin
Maryann Kavanagh, 4, grand-niece, RC, b Co Dublin
Winifred Kavanagh, 3, grand-niece, RC, b Co Dublin

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Old 24-07-14, 02:41
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Do you know what happened to Mary and Rosanna? They are the only 2 females left on the 1911 that Lily could be, if they haven't gotten confused.
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Old 24-07-14, 14:21
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Looking the siblings on the 1911 census:

1 Can't find out what happened to Mary.
2 Winifred married Albert Vickers in Grimsby.
3 Rosanna married Joseph Vize in Ireland in 1926.
4 Elizabeth - only reference appears to be on the 1911 census
5 Michael married Elsie Miller in Grimsby in 1929.
6 Ellen married George Walton in Grimsby in 1936.
7 Catherine may have died in 1911.

Beginning to think that the lady I'm helping is getting a bit mixed up. Elizabeth, Lizzie and Lily are in fact the same person.
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I was looking AT INFORMATION ON GLASTHULE BUILDINGS WHEN I SAW YOUR POST FROM LAST YEAR WHERE IS LILY KAVANAH THIS LADY WAS MY FATHERS MOTHER, I HAVE JUST STARTED TO LOOK INTO MY FAMILY TREE IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHO YOUR FRIEND IS WE MUST BE RELATED, UNLESS YOUR FRIEND IS J**N W***** WHO IS MY COUSIN AND HAS ALREADY PASSED ON SOME INFORMATION TO ME
HOPING TO HEAR FROM YOU
THANKS VINCE

Last edited by Merry; 11-03-15 at 05:54. Reason: Name of living person removed
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