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Default CATHERINE RYAN (1 x grandparent - OH's)

Name - "official" name and what they were known as:
Catherine Ryan

Date and place of birth:
Ireland - uncertain about place or date (see note below)

Names of parents:
John Ryan and Sarah Hand

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any - and any divorces:
Married James McCrudden on 30 April 1913, St Brigid's Church, Belfast. Witnesses: Owen McGlinn and Moira Ryan

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on, if applicable:

1881 census Dover Castle
John Ryan – 32 – Cpl – Royal Artillery – b Ireland
Sarah – 31 – wife – b Ireland
John J – 6 – son – b Alderney
Bridget – 5 – dau – b Jersey
Catherine – 4 – dau – b Ireland
Mary – 2 – dau – b Sheerness
James – 1 – son – b Sheerness
Michael – 3 months – b Dover

1891 - can't find, but as John Ryan had completed his service with the army, the family may have returned to Ireland.

1899 - Belfast (death of son, James)

1901 census Lincoln Avenue, Belfast
John Ryan – 50 – accountant – born Tipperary
Sarah Ryan – 50 – born Down
John Patrick – 25 – excise officer – born Alderney
Bridget – 23 – dress maker – born Guernsey
Catherine – 21 – born Armagh
Michael – 18 – shop assistant – born England
Cornelius – 15 – school – born England
Mary – 14 – school – born England
All the family speak both Irish and English

1908: Vicinage Park, Belfast

1910: 4 Thorndale Terrace, Belfast

1911 census Oceanic Avenue, Belfast
John Ryan – 63 – army accountant – born Tipperary
Sarah – 65 – born Down
Bridget – 33 – draper – born Jersey
Catherine – 32 – designer – born Armagh
Cornelius – 24 – life insurance superintendent – born Sussex
Mary – 23 – life insurance superintendent – born Sussex
James McCrudden – 34 – publican – born Monaghan

John and Sarah married 37 years, 11 children, six living

1913 Sandhurst Drive, Belfast


Date, place and cause of death:
Died 8 January 1965, at Oceanic Avenue, Belfast, aged 75, widow of James McCrudden, grocer. Cause: Brochio-pneumonia due to pulmonary oedema and senility. Informant: Daughter, Kathleen Ryan, Registered on 11 January 1965.

Date and place of burial / cremation:
Buried in the Ryan plot in Milltown Cemetery, Belfast

When was Catherine born?
I have a birth record for Catherine Ryan, born in Newry on 14 July 1876 and baptised on the same day. On this record, her mother’s name is listed as Sarah Hand and the two baptismal witnesses are Michael and Ellen Hand.

On the 1881 census, Catherine is four. This ties in with the date of birth above.

In the 1901 census, Catherine is 21 and in the 1911 census, 32. This gives a date of birth of 1879 or 1880. However, the place of birth is Armagh.

When she died in 1965, her daughter gave her late mother's age as 75, but this would give a date of birth of 1890.

Last edited by Shona; 08-04-16 at 08:25.
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