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Old 27-03-13, 10:06
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I am helping my bil with his family and have found his grandfather James Hirst’s obituary and his death registration. There are family trees which say he was born 18/12/1855 at Eaves, Burnley Lancashire and that his parents were Henry Hirst and Elizabeth Dodgeon. I have looked at the Lancs OPC and Familysearch and have not been able to find them. James Hirst married Diana Druce and there is quite a lot about the Druce family and their claim to the Duke of Portland. My bil is putting together his father Arthur’s story, which is fascinating, but as he is not very well I would really love to be able to tell him more about his Hirst ancestors.
From James obituary I believe that his parents came to New Zealand abt 1860 but we do not know where. I do not know whether they stayed and are buried in New Zealand, whether they came to Australia or whether they returned to UK. I would really appreciate any help. Many thanks.

1. OBITUARY – “Sydney Morning Herald” 9 April 1930

The first part of his obit says “The death has occurred of Mr. James Hirst, of Vaucluse, a well-known member of the Institute of Mechanical Engineers, and of the Institute of Electrical Engineers, who for several years was city electrician at Newcastle.
Mr. Hirst, who was 74 years of age, was a native of Burnley, England, and accompanied his parents to Auckland, New Zealand, some 70 years ago.
When a young man he came to Sydney, having previously served his time as an apprentice at mechanical and electrical engineering.”

2. NSW BDM- Death Reg. No. 8046 Woollahra - 1930 HIRST JAMES. Father – Henry, Mother – Elizabeth.
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Old 27-03-13, 10:48
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Lots about the Druce family on this thread on GF:

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ighlight=druce
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Yes Shona .. there have been lots written about the Druces, because of their claim to the Duke of Portland .. so it is the Hirst family that I would like to know more about. Julie
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Julie, I have found a birth for a Henry and Elizabeth Hirst as follows:

1860/4452 Hirst Susannah Elizabeth Henry

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.gov...ge%3D4#matches

I don't know if this is your couple or not but the date is early enough.
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Old 27-03-13, 11:57
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Julie, I have found a birth for a Henry and Elizabeth Hirst as follows:

1860/4452 Hirst Susannah Elizabeth Henry

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.gov...ge%3D4#matches

I don't know if this is your couple or not but the date is early enough.
She must have been named after Henry's mother.
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She must have been named after Henry's mother.
That's what I thought, Shona.
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Marriage for John and Mary?

Marriage: 28 Dec 1795 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
John Hurst - this Parish
Mary Whittaker - (X), this Parish
Witness: Richard Pate; James Smith
Married by Banns by: J. Adamson, Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1778 - 1812, Page 10, Entry 44
Source: Original Parish Register

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Old 27-03-13, 12:12
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Baptisms at Padiham for parents John and Mary Hirst.
One looks a rogue as John is a warper there and not a miner, but who knows!

Baptism: 29 Jan 1797 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Matthew Hirst - Son of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 26 Dec
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J. Adamson Incumbent
Register: Baptisms 1791 - 1802, Page 33, Entry 10
Source: Orginal Parish Register


Baptism: 28 Apr 1799 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Maria Hirst - Daughter of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 19 Apr 1799
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J. Adamson Incumbent
Register: Baptisms 1791 - 1802, Page 42, Entry 52
Source: Orginal Parish Register

Baptism: 6 Apr 1806 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Thomas Hirst - Son of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 5 Jan
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Miner
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 49
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 23 Feb 1808 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
John Hirst - Son of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 15 Jan
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Warper
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 24
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 12 Mar 1809 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Thomas Hirst - Son of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 26 Feb
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Miner
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 25
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 11 Sep 1814 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
William Hirst - Son of John Hirst & Mary
Born: 20 Aug 1814
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J Adamson
Register: Baptims 1813 - 1827, Page 36, Entry 284
Source: Original Parish Register
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This 1851 census records looks interesting - it's very faint and difficult to read, though.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=11970461

Habergham Eaves

Henry Hirst, head, 25, cotton warper, born Padiham
Elizabeth Hirst, wife, 29, milliner, born Todmorden, Yorkshire
Mary Dodgeon, mother-in-law, 67, born Todmorden, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Buirley, apprentice, ??, milliner, born ??? Lancashire

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Susanna Hirst whose birth I gave above seems to have died aged 16.

1877/695 Hirst Susanna 16Y

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.gov...#SearchResults
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