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Old 19-03-21, 20:04
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Default Australian marriage or death search please.

Sorry for the lengthy post.

Mark Pewter:
I have lots of the documents and newspaper reports from England and Australia up to 1846 when he was granted a Hawker's License after his pardon the previous year.
Can anyone find him after this date please?
Born 1803 Tollesbury, Essex.
1822 Imprisonment for 1Yr larceny
1826 Married Phoebe Smith - 2 children Sarah 1827 Eliza 1829.
1829 May Tried at Chelmsford and sentenced to transportation for Life for sheep stealing.
Sent to Prison Hulk Leviathan at Portsmouth.
1829 Oct Ship: Katherine Stewart Forbes Embarked for NSW Australia
1830 Arrival Sydney Cove, New South Wales, Australia.
Proceeded to Liverpool Planes and assigned to Alexander McLeod at Ratagan on arrival.
1838 received a ticket of leave.
1844 and 1846 He ran The Red House which was not licensed between these years . He provided accommodation, paddocks and stockyards.
1845 Granted 2nd class conditional pardon.

Ad in the Maitland Mercury in 1845 reads: The Red House - Halfway between Maitland and Singleton, on the old line of road.
Mark Pewter having entered upon the above premises begs to inform parties travelling that road that they will meet with good accommodation at reasonable charges. Teams can have the advantage of paddocks and stockyard at the under mentioned charges: Fat Cattle 1 1/2d per night Working bullocks 2d per night Horses 3d per night.

1846 Mark Pewter was granted a Hawker's License.

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Old 19-03-21, 21:31
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There is a tree on Ancestry that has a family story uploaded that says he came back to England have you seen it?
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I think you mean this one from Howell Jones Tree:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-v...=successSource

or this link

I've no idea where that story comes from, Maggie, and there are no sources for it. My man definitely went to Australia. Anyway as Napoleon died in 1821 on St Helena it's hardly likely to be my man! Thanks for looking though.

Edit: Mark's father was John Pewter and the story seems to relate to this John's father being another Mark which would fit in timewise. I have never been able to get to the bottom of this.
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I think you mean this one from Howell Jones Tree:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-v...=successSource

or this link

I've no idea where that story comes from, Maggie, and there are no sources for it. My man definitely went to Australia. Anyway as Napoleon died in 1821 on St Helena it's hardly likely to be my man! Thanks for looking though.

Edit: Mark's father was John Pewter and the story seems to relate to this John's father being another Mark which would fit in timewise. I have never been able to get to the bottom of this.
I thought it very unlikely, I would expect 99.99% of the convicts never came back.
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Old 19-03-21, 23:00
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I would be surprised if an ex-convict, ex public house keeper cum hawker would have earned enough to pay for his passage home. I think the cost was about 15pounds.

Its possible he died, but his death was not recorded by NSW BDM. They collected the old church burial records after 1856 when civil registration began, going back to earliest days. I am not sure if they may have missed some small burial grounds or some churches did not provide their records. I have Fred Scammell whose death is not the BDM indexes, but I have his burial recorded as 1849 in Boorowa.

I can see Mark Pewter pretty much stayed in the Hunter region, but perhaps he had had enough, moved to Sydney, or Newcastle and changed his name?



But maybe he gave information on the bushrangers .....
(Trove, a few years early, though)

NSW Government Gazette
Colonial Secretary's Office,
Sydney, 16th December, 1840.
FREE PARDON AND PASSAGE TO ENGLAND.
WHEREAS it has been represented to the
Government that the Bushrangers named
and described below, who have lately committed
outrages in the Hunter's River Districts, are still
at large, His Excellency the Governor, with a
view to encourage their more speedy apprehen
sion directs it to be notified that a Free Pardon
and Passage to England, will be granted to any
Prisoner of the Crown who shall give such private
information, to any Police Magistrate, as may
cause the capture of the said Bushrangers.
By His Excellency's Command,
E. DEAS THOMSON.
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I think you mean this one from Howell Jones Tree:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-v...=successSource

or this link

I've no idea where that story comes from, Maggie, and there are no sources for it. My man definitely went to Australia. Anyway as Napoleon died in 1821 on St Helena it's hardly likely to be my man! Thanks for looking though.

Edit: Mark's father was John Pewter and the story seems to relate to this John's father being another Mark which would fit in timewise. I have never been able to get to the bottom of this.
Smugglers were better than Sheep Stealers?
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A lot of people who went the Hunter region, then up through New England into Qld. From there onto stations in the west or east into the Darling Downs. There is a Facebook group for the Maitland area. I’ll see what I can find.
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Do you know if his wife went with him?
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Old 20-03-21, 08:01
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I did find this could be a red herring this man died on 19 September 1880 in Daylesford he was born 1803 this record is on Family Search

But there are Ancestry records:-

Name: Mark Putter
Spouse Name: Margaret Jane Daly
Marriage Date: 1870
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Maitland, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Number: 2649

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

Name: Mark Putter
Death Date: 1880
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Place: Maitland West, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7933

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...;successSource')

Mark Putter
Gender: M (Male)
Death Date: 1880
Cemetery: Branxton General Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Branxton, Cessnock City, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio?: N

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource

Probate and death record on Family Search:-

Death

Name: Mark Putter
Event Type:
Burial
Event Place: Greater Cessnock, New South Wales, Australia
Age: 77
Birth Year (Estimated): 1803
Death Date: 19 Sep 1880
Cemetery: Branxton General Cemetery: Headstones
Spouse's Name: Margaret Jane

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...A1%3AQVB6-YF64

Probate

Name: Mark Putter
Event Type: Probate
Event Date: 22 Nov 1880
Event Place: New South Wales, Australia
Event Place (Original): Daylsford
Death Date: 19 Sep 1880
Note: No Duty Paid File. File now at Z01756 [20/6979]
Affiliate Record Identifier: 14620
Affiliate Item Number: [19/10182]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2TW-KX52

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Libby - he left a wife and two young children back in Essex.

Maggie - They look very promising finds. I had searched for variations on name but nothing ever came up apart from a marriage for him as Puter. Puter was used over a short period of time for other members of the same wider family's baptisms by just one vicar of Tollesbury. I never searched for Putter. I should have thought of that as often a double letter combo doesn't always come up in a search as a variation.

I will have a look at those later in the day and get back. Thank you
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