William Seaman born in Norwich

[kiterunner]

My 3xg-grandfather William Seaman, whose army papers I found on Findmypast this morning, joined the army at London 31st Mar 1834 giving his age as 20. He gave his age as 34 on his second marriage 19th Nov 1847, and his father's name as William Seaman. He died 22 Jul 1901 and his age is given as 83 on his burial record. So he was born about 1813 - 1818, and I would think it's more likely his age on the burial is wrong than the age when he joined the army, which would mean probably born nearer to 1813 than 1818. His army papers say he was born in the parish of St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk, so why can't I find a likely baptism for him? Help, please!

I should add he was in India nearly all the time he was in the army, and after he was discharged, so there are no censuses or GRO certificates to help. But I did think once I had a birthplace for him I might get somewhere! I might have known it wouldn't be so simple!

[Margaret in Burton]

Presumably you have looked at FreeReg? A lot of Norfolk has been covered.

I KNOW you will have looked at Family Search Record search.

[Merry]

Well, I would like him to be a son of Wm and Abigail Seaman, mainly because Abigail is on the census (in St Giles), so that makes it easier! lol They married in 1800 and had a son George bap at St Paul's Norwich in 1805. Unless Wm senr died one would expect more children .....it's just finding them! lol

Unfortunately there's no occ for Wm on George's bap or on the marriage for Wm and Abigail. Was there one on the marriage cert?

[kiterunner]

Yes, thanks Marg, I've looked on FreeREG, FamilySearch, FamilySearch Record Search, Norfolk Transcription Archive and Norfolk Baptism Project so far.

I haven't managed to see the actual marriage cert, Merry, only what's on FamilySearch Record Search. But my William's first daughter was named Abigail and his second son (after a William) was called George, so that all sounds very good, thanks.

[Phoenix]

Don't they say there were parishes for every week in the year in Norwich? Not to mention lots of non-conformity?

Have you looked for Seaman wills/poor law in case there's anything extra?

There are lots of indexes around, but I don't think many are online.

[kiterunner]

I had a look on NOAH at all the Seaman wills listed on there and found nothing, but will have another try now I have the names Abigail and George to look for as well as William. There is an Abigail Seaman death registered in 1859 in Norwich.

[Nell]

He may have been mistaken about his place of birth and/or been baptised elsewhere, or he may have been privately baptised and the entry wasn't recorded in the register - or not baptised at all. You seem to have looked at all the obvious online sites I was going to suggest!

Alternatively, his name may have been misrecorded/transcribed.

[kiterunner]

Thanks, Nell. I've ordered Abigail Seaman's death cert to see if there is any clue there. One of William's sons joined the army in Norwich in the 1860's and William was discharged from the army in England in the 1860's, although he went back to India afterwards, so it's possible another of his children might turn out to be the informant on Abigail's death cert. You never know!

[kiterunner]

Abigail Seaman's death cert has arrived and it's not much help - Abigail Seaman, a widow, 84 years, died 24 Oct 1859 Workhouse, Norwich, informant Martha Mortimer present at the death, Workhouse.

[billeastoe]

From the PRs of Norwich St Giles
14 March 1813 William Jonathan son of William & Abigail SIMMONS father a labourer
Easy to find, last entry on the very first page of the register

Hope that helps