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Old 03-09-10, 18:50
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Default Elizabeth Sawyer

My OH’s mother's father's mother's mother.

Name:
Elizabeth Sawyer

Date and place of birth:
Abt 1826 St George’s Hanover Square/Marylebone/Paddington (take your pick), London, England

Names of parents:
Not known

Date and place of baptism:
Not known

Details of each of his or her marriages:
Marriage to James Benge probably 1851 (first child was born 1852) but obviously could be a lot later.

Occupation(s):
Charwoman
Washerwoman


Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK):

Not found - 1841 Census
Not found - 1851 Census

9 Hanover Court, St Gles without Cripplegate, London, England - 1861 Census
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgPLz0q3dpid

6 Crown Court, St Luke, Finsbury, London, England - 1871 Census
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgPLz0q3dpid

2 Angel Place, St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England - 1881 Census
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgPLz0q3dpid

11 White Street, St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England - 1891 Census
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgPLz0q3dpid


Date, place and cause of death:
Probably Oct-Dec 1896 City of London Vol 1c Page 5 not confirmed with death certificate.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgPLz0q3dpid


Date and place of burial / cremation:
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate:
Not known

Memorial inscription:
Not known

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Added Elizabeth's surname of Sawyer.
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Old 21-09-10, 09:12
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You need to ask admin to alter your thread title and put Sawyer instead of ?

Be better for when it's picked up by Google.
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Okay will do.
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Changed for you, Maggie.
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Possible baptism:

Name: Elizabeth Sawyer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1826
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1825
Father's Name: Richard Sawyer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03524-7
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 580912
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


another possible

Name: Elizabeth Sawyer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Sep 1827
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Robert Sawyer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03524-7
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 580912
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Old 21-09-10, 10:49
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Maggie, this could be Elizabeth in 1841.


1841
SAWYER, Richd M 40 1801
SAWYER, Elizth F 30 1811 Middlesex
SAWYER, Elizth F 15 1826 Middlesex
SAWYER, Caroline F 14 1827 Middlesex
SAWYER, Richd M 7 1834 Middlesex
SAWYER, Julia F 9 1832 Middlesex
SAWYER, Walter M 5 1836 Middlesex
SAWYER, Clarissa F 1 1840 Middlesex

RG number: HO107 Piece: 680 Book/Folio: 5/20 Page: 32

Address:
East Street, St Marylebone County:
Middlesex
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Thanks for that.

ElizabethHerts

I think I have seen one that census and they are a likely family - thing is none of her children were called any of those names! Not that thats conclusive it's that elusive marriage cert of her and James I need to get both her father's name and profession and James too. James is a mystery too really.

Interestingly on the other thread Harry's Mum found a couple of people called Benge and Sawyer in Kent.I do think the Benge's came from Kent originally. But both Elizabeth and James put London on their places of birth - Elizabeth Paddington/Marylebone even St George Hanover Square (which I think is a red herring) and James consistently Whitechapel/Stepney.
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Have you found any likely Elizabeths in 1851? I'm thinking she may have been married to someone else at that juncture, hence no marriage to James.
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Just to add to the above:


Caroline Sawyer
Birth: 19 FEB 1827
Christening: 16 MAR 1827 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Julia Prestone Sawyer
Birth: 23 FEB 1830
Christening: 16 MAY 1830
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
Death: 18 MAR 1832

Julia Sawyer
Birth: 03 AUG 1832
Christening: 02 SEP 1832
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Richard Adolphus Sawyer
birth 19 SEP 1834
Christening: 03 MAY 1835
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Walter Augustus Sawyer
Birth: 01 SEP 1836
Christening: 15 OCT 1837
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Clarissa Emma Sawyer
birth 01 MAY 1840
Christening: 27 SEP 1840
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

1851 Census
HARACE, Elizh Head Widow F 39 1812 Strain Bonnet Maker St James Middlesex
SANGER, Julia Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Strain Bonnet Maker Marylebone
Middlesex
SANGER, Adolphus Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Walter Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Errand Boy Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Theara Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Frederk Son M 4 1847 At Home Marylebone Middlesex

SAINT PANCRAS, Middlesex
HO107 piece 1494 folio 130 page 38
Address:
14, Little Charlotte Street, Saint Pancras, Marylebone

This is transcribed by FMP - Ancestry might be different.
The surname of the children is definitely SAWYER>
Why is Elizabeth using a different surname? I can't find a marriage to a Mr Harker/Harkin for her. (It looks like Harker/Harkin on the image)


Where did Frederick come from??
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