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Old 07-08-15, 01:50
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Still waiting on the marriage cert from UK - about a 3 to 4 week delivery time so getting closer........anticipation is mounting.......
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Old 07-08-15, 07:40
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lol! I hope it arrives sooner than you think
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Old 18-08-15, 01:46
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Fabulous news - it has arrived .....(was so exciting to open the envelope haha)

Marriage between Edward Holden (22, Bachelor, Miner, 3 Malta Street Darwen) and Ann Winifred Hepperan (21, spinster, warper, 4 Noble Street Darwen) on May 24 1913. Edward's father is Edward Holden (no occupation) and Ann's father is John Hepperan (miner). Married at St John the Evangelist Church in Darwen.

Witnesses to marriage are: Richard Holden and Sophia Holden (Richard's wife perhaps???)

Would I be too hasty do you think in adding the previous details regarding the Edward Holden/Alice Woodcock information to my tree ????? Do I need to dig further ??? Any help appreciated

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Old 18-08-15, 07:38
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Yeh! Great news.

The marriage witness, Richard, would appear to be Edward jr's brother who appears with the family in 1891 and 1901, born about 1883. According to the 1911 census at that date he has been married to Sophia for one year and had one child, James Edward Holden aged under one month.

This looks like their marriage:


Marriages Mar 1910
BROWN David Blackburn 8e 821
HOLDEN Richard Blackburn 8e 821 <<<<<<<<<<<<
LOWE Sophia Blackburn 8e 821 <<<<<<<<<<<
Marsden Maud Blackburn 8e 821

It took place at Darwen, United Reformed Church, according to Lancs BMD.
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Old 18-08-15, 07:46
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Richard's baptism is on Ancestry, giving his dob as 5 Jun 1883 (bap in 1885), parents Edward and Alice.
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Old 18-08-15, 08:39
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Fantastic - thanks for the information. I wondered if 'Sophia' was Richard's wife. Looks like she was thanks to your discovery and that helps to confirm the details in the marriage cert too. It certainly looks like the pieces of the jigsaw are beginning to fall into place. It is wonderful to finally be able to 'find' my fathers family after so many years.
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Old 18-08-15, 09:17
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Ann and her mother Mary and sister Ethelreda are in Darwen in 1911.

These look like their baptisms (there are several other siblings)


Name: Anna Hefferan
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 9 Nov 1892
Baptism Place: Wath-upon-Dearne, York, England
Father: Joannes Hefferan
Mother: Maria Devine Hefferan
FHL Film Number: 1942372
Reference ID: Fr 236


Name: Ethelreda Heffran
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Wath-upon-Dearne, York, England
Father: Joannis Heffran
Mother: Mariae Devine Heffran
FHL Film Number: 1942372
Reference ID: Fr 234

Ann's parent's marriage:


Marriages Jun 1884
DEVINE Mary Rotherham 9c 841 <<<<<<<<
Heffrin John Rotherham 9c 841 <<<<<<<<<<<
Thompson Emily Rotherham 9c 841
Young Thomas Rotherham 9c 841
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Old 18-08-15, 09:22
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And this must be Ann Winifred's family:

1891 census on ancestry

3 West Street, Wath upon Dearne, Yorkshire
John Hefferen Head M 34 Coal Miner Claycross, Derby
Mary Do Wife M 29 Barnsley, Yorks
Ellen Do Daur S 6 Scholar Wath O D Do
Winnifred Do Daur S 5 Do Do Do
Ethel Do Daur S 3 Do Do
Francis Do Son S 10 mo Do Do

1901 census (not found Ann on this one yet):
1901 census on ancestry
20 Radford St, Darwen, Lancs
Mary Hefferen Head M 39 Cotton Winder Yorks Barnsley
Mary Devine Mother Wid 65 Ireland

1911 census:
1911 census on ancestry
3 Noble St, Darwen, Lancs
Mary Hefferon Head 49 Married 27 yrs, 8 children, 3 living, 5 died, Charwoman, Barnsley Yorks
Ethelreda Do Dau 22 Single Cotton Mill Worker Wath upon Dearne, Yorks
Ann Do Do 19 " " " "

edit - Merry and I both posted at the same time!
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Old 18-08-15, 09:55
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Oh my goodness - you wonderful, wonderful people....I am so thankful for the amount of information that you've been able to supply.
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Old 18-08-15, 10:02
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John Heffren was sentenced to 7 days hard labour in Wakefield prison or a fine for "Drunk &c" in Nov 1901:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/50...l=ReturnRecord
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