Sancton William Wood Bell

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by tenterfieldjulie

Shona thank you very much for tracking the Sancton Wood connection. It is certainly a very interesting line.

I have looked at that Russell tree a number of times. What I find frustrating with it is, that it gives the extract of the marriage of John Russell and says he is of St Dunstan's West and that Elizabeth Lloyd Sandiford is of the parish ... but which parish? The entry doesn't identify where the marriage took place .. or does it?

There is a Rootschat thread which says they got married at St Bride Fleet Street:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=489519.0

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by tenterfieldjulie

What you have established absolutely is that Thomas Bell coal merchant married to Anna Maria Russell with 9 sons and 3 daughters is also Lieutenant Thomas Bell of Honourary Artillery Co. The later is confusing to me though.

Is it possible that this was Militia? Would there be records of his enlistment?

I have used a Military Researcher to find records of my OH's ancestor, tracking him through Europe, Barbados and Aus. Would that be the way to go from here?

There is a Wikipedia entry for the Honourable Artillery Company:
Honourable Artillery Company

[Mary from Italy]

Originally Posted by Shona

Here is a Google book snippet which mentions the death of Hannah Sancton - can't see a date:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=h...ed=0CEAQ6AEwAw

I think it's 23rd November 1811.

[Mary from Italy]

Here's Hannah Sancton's burial, mistranscribed as Samton:

St. Lawrence Jewry
Interred in the Great Vault Nov 29th 1811 aged 29 years.

There's another burial on the next page for Hannah Sancton, died March 31st aged 2 years. Interred in the Great Vault April 3rd 1812.

The address for both of them is given as Cateaton Street.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=7125458

[Mary from Italy]

John Sancton's will is available on TNA:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...OB+11/1695/441

[Mary from Italy]

And here's his burial in 1825, listed as Saneton:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...rc=&pid=302983

Address given as Hornsey and Cateaton St.

[Mary from Italy]

Cowley and Sancton of Cateaton Street:

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/...browse&nv2=sub

http://www.exclassics.com/newgate/ng841.htm

COWLEY AND HEWETSON, merchants and linen factors of 31 Gresham Street. Formerly (until 1825) Cowley and Sancton.

http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/22i.htm

Thanks Kate, Shona and Mary you have been busy.
I went to the library to access Ancestry late this afternoon and found the marriage registrations of Thomas Bell and Anna Maria Russell; Edward Bell and Mary Ann Owen; Maria Bell and William Duguid (Master Mariner - whose father was an Officer in the Army).
Unfortunately this time when I opened GF and Ancestry, the links on GF wouldn't work and it kept asking me to sign in to Ancestry which I already had open..
So I went searching for Mary Ann Owen's baptism that someone Maggie found for me .. (Also Mary Ann wife put Hackney as birth place there is a baptism for a Mary Ann Owen approx right year and at St John's Hackney sorry on iPhone so can't get link - just in case it turns out to be the right Mary! Found it yesterday.)

The one that I found was 1/1/1817 for Mary Ann Owen dau of William and Mary Owen, G?rove Place, Hackney, Lieutenant in the Army. This doesn't exactly tally with her birth age according to Census 1814/5 but if he was in the Army he could have been moving around. Julie

[kiterunner]

Sorry, Julie, I expect the ancestry links on here are to the UK site but you would probably have been using the Australian one.

Could be Kate, but I thought it worked last week... maybe I need to turn the Aussie lot off lol