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Wilhelmina Coralie Versigny FFMM
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Wilhelmina Coralie, or Coralie Wilhelmina, or Coraly, or possibly Minie, sometimes Adrienne, Surnames are Versigny, Logsdon and Scriven I think she has signed as witness at 2 of her children's marriages lovely handwriting but illegible to me, she has signed in a French looking name, suggesting that she never actually married and was using her maiden name on a legal document, but used slightly different names on both. When I've worked out how to post a link to them I'll add them here. Date and place of birth abt 1935 Paris France Names of parents Napoleon Versigny and Marie Adrienne Deseaux Date and place of baptism - if applicable No idea, ] Details of each of his or her marriages - if any lived as the wife of James Logsdon, first child born 1855, and also lived as wife of William Scriven from about 1881. No marriages found. Occupation(s) - if any None listed Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on. 1841- Not in the country 1849- Arrived in London with her father 1851- 1861- 25 Lambeth St, Whitechapel, Middlesex 1871- 58 Quaker St, Christchurch Spitalfields, London 1881- 63 Victoria Street, West Ham, Essex 1891- 25 Regents Row, Shoreditch, London 1901- 1 Whitney Rd, Leyton, Essex 1911- 14 Amberley Road, Leyton, Essex 1917- 29 Darnley Road, Hackney (Death cert) Date, place and cause of death 22nd April 1917 Hackney Infirmary, Broken thigh from accidental fall at home. Inquest held 25th April 1917 Date and place of burial / cremation. Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Memorial inscription - if any This lady was a real puzzle to me, thank you for all the help/inspiration recieved Last edited by Sue at the seaside; 07-07-13 at 22:15. Reason: Update of the findings by the wonderful people here, and death info |
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I cant get on with posting links and can't manage photobucket!!! so if anyone feels they could have a look at her signature for me the 2 weddings where she signed the register as a witness are listed below
Napoleon James Logsdon to Elizabeth Webb 1875 and Annie Coraly Logsdon to Alfred Joseph Norton in 1877 Thanks for at least reading this. Sue |
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The witness's name on Napoleon's marriage cert looks like Wilhelmina Coralie Versigny De Vere, and the witness's name on Annie's marriage cert is Coraly Adrienne Versigny Logsdon. The word Versigny looks identical on the two signatures but Coralie is spelt differently!
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Thanks for looking at that Kite, my OH thought it looked like De Vere, couldn't get that first name! The spelling of Coralie is odd, I feel she is must be an educated person to write with such a hand, (That's probably the French education system for you!) So not being consistent with the spelling of her own name seems strange! And then the progression to using a double barrelled name to incorporate her OHs. If only we could get into their minds!
Just had another look at this, I had assumed both signatures were the same person, but the "Adrienne" bit would indicate otherwise, there is another daughter Ellen Adrienne, perhaps it is her that is witness, but she is only 13ish so unlikely. I think there is a lot more to this family than meets the eye Last edited by Sue at the seaside; 18-09-10 at 09:33. |
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The word Versigny is written identically in the two witness signatures, so I'm sure they must be written by the same person.
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I agree with you Kite, I've printed the signatures to check. I think there is more to this woman than meets the eye! why on earth does an "educated" woman, change her name at the drop of a hat! I can understand verbal records being corrupted, but to change your name on your children's marriage records seems very odd!
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OK.................this bird has to be related to the Ariels.......lol. Tries to confuse everyone...lol
I put a search in the 1861 census for Coralie born France. I got one hit. She is Coralie OWEN wife of George OWEN. So I look for the marriage to see Coralie's maiden name...... FreeBMD has a marriage of George OWEN and Coralie Euphrosyne V MONTGOMERY in 1869???? So maybe not actually married in 1861.....lol Also on the same page (but at a different area...lol) is a Wilhelmina Jaroha RUVSSENAERS. Don't think they fit with yours.....but thought I'd add them for a laugh......(I'm gaining a very sick sense of humour).
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Do you have the birth certs of any of her children? I'm just wondering what variation was given there?!
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Name: James Logsdon
Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 63 District: St George in The East County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 273 Is this James? Seems a little too old....... I guess you can't find either of them in 1881? Have you found an alternative person who may belong to this death reg?
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It's strange because there is a public tree on Ancestry which has a
Wilhelmina C. Logsdon b 23 April 1913 in Indiana with a father James P Logsdon (1884-1971), mother Cora Francis Mattingly. I know the dates (and place )are wrong, but any connection? http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/404...on/-1658239852
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