Thanks Di. Her husband was in the army & she was with him in Ireland & his battalion did travel up to Sheffield in 1868 when Philip was born. He then went to the Ayrshire Yeomanry & died in Ayr. On the birth certs for the 2 younger children, her maiden name is confirmed as being Bingham.
I have contacted Kent reg office for her birth cert, but they have no record of it. I have found an Ellen Bingham c1836 with father John in Canterbury in 1841, but can find no trace of them in 1851.
Ellen did give her birth place as Canterbury in all the censuses
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