Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mary [possibly
Hargreaves but I don't necessarily believe it]
Date and place of birth possibly
about 1749 place unknown
Names of parents
unknown
Date and place of baptism - if applicable
unknown
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Possibly:
Marriage to John Pickles
12 Jul 1781
Age: 32
Kildwick, Yorkshire
Occupation(s) - if any
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
Cowling, Yorkshire
Date, place and cause of death
Possibly:
6 Nov 1822
Age: 73
Cowling, Yorkshire
Cause unknown.
Date and place of burial.
Unknown
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Unknown, probably unlikely
Memorial inscription - if any
Unknown
I'm putting this up mainly to be a place marker for future research because I'm having trouble figuring out who's who and I still have to buy a bunch of cert's.
I know my MF Walter Pickles Berry. ==> have birth cert and marriage cert
I know my MFM Emma Berry nee Pickles. ==> have birth cert, marriage cert and death cert
I know my MFMF Robert Pickles (per Emma's birth and marriage cert's). ==> bap. 9 July 1820 (Kildwick PR), need certs for 2 marriages and death (buried 2 Dec 1878, Kildwick PR)
I am pretty certain of my MFMFF David Pickles. ==> must get cert's
(Robert Pickles' first child is named David, presumably after his grandfather.)
I think my MFMFF's parents might be John and Mary Pickles.
There is a tree on ancestry that says so, but I would need to prove it.
They have:
John Pickles
Birth 1756 in Cowling, Yorkshire
12 Jul 1781
Age: 25
Marriage to Mary Hargreaves
Kildwick, Yorkshire
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/307...07543461?ssrc=
and
Mary Hargreaves
Birth 1749
Marriage to John Pickles
12 Jul 1781
Age: 32
Kildwick, Yorkshire
Death
6 Nov 1822
Age: 73
Cowling, Yorkshire
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Source:
Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about Mary William Hargreaves Elizabeth
Text: 07 Jun 1767 Mary Daughter of William Hargreaves of Cowling Weaver & Elizabeth his Wife
Book: Volume 7, 1744-1771.
Collection: Yorkshire: Kildwick - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials), 1744-1799
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On another thread, Elizabeth found this marriage, same date as above:
Groom's Name:
John Pighels
Bride's Name:
Mary Hargreaves
Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1781
Marriage Place: Kildwick,York,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01001-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 919148
Reference Number:
Now is when I start to have trouble, because the name is spelled Pickles in one place and Pighels in another place, all for the same marriage.
Worse yet, there seem to be two couples having children in Cowling in the same period of time:
John and Mary Pickles have a child born 30.11.1782
John and Mary Pighels have a child born 29.12.1782
So definitely two childbearing families, maybe one mine and the other not, but how can I tell the difference?
I would like to think the John and Mary Pickles who baptize their children Dinah b. 30.11.1782, Hannah b. 20.1.1785 and David b. 3.10.1787 in batch on 18.9.1792 are my family.
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Plan of action:
I need to get Robert Pickles' certificate for his second marriage, the one that produced my MFM Emma.
If that points to father David Pickles, then I will get David Pickles and Martha Shackleton's marriage certificate.
And if that points to father John Pickles, then I'm back to scratching my head on how to prove which John he is, and how to establish his wife (Mary?)'s identity.
Robert Pickles' probable marriages are here:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/F...?t=9264&page=2