oooh thanks Val in Oz and Elizabeth in Herts. I nearly never put this up it's so vague and has been a brick wall for a long time.

I have never managed to find a marriage the reason I have the name Sawyer I bought their daughter Jane Benge's birth certificate it has Elizabeth Benge formerly Sawyer on it.

That family in Marylebone look good.

I just looked at the baptism for Richard and Elizabeth and it looked like they had two daughters they named Elizabeth so I assume the first one died.