oh, Kite,
I think I have it - I do - its says Mary Arnold formerly FITZPATRICK.
Of course, because I knew where they lived at her birth, which matches the census.
Not much help though, ARNOLD and FITZPATRICK born in Ireland.
Can't find a marriage before James Jnr's birth, in Manchester, so maybe they married in Ireland and came over after the 1841 census ?
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