Welcome to the forum, linds1967. I've re-read this thread a couple of times, but I'm confused by what you say about Bertha Louise Jones not being the bride in the 1907 marriage but a witness. Are you talking about the marriage of Bertha Louisa Jones to Henry John Enbel (or Eubel, or Embel) in 1907? If so, could you give us the full details of what it says on the marriage certificate, please?
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