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Phoenix 04-09-20 21:01

Who is Alfred?
 
This is Alfred in 1911, in Wales:



https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...urce&pId=55444


Alfred Cousins is 48
Ada is 40 (married 16 years)
John is 14


All born Portsmouth.


This is coming as a hint for my John Victor Baigent Couzens.
Born 1897,son of Ada Phobe Couzens (unmarried)


Here is the family in 1901:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...89?pId=6738620


Phoebe aged 31
John aged 4


Am I (and Ancestry!) confusing two separate families, or has Alfred adopted the surname Cousins as a matter of onvenience?

Merry 04-09-20 21:12

My F-i-L did that (took his wife's name).

I see Ada died in the 1940s. Have you got her in 1939 and is she alone/what is her marital status?

Merry 04-09-20 21:23

Ada's probate entry says she is a widow and mentions her son as John Victor Couzens an incorporated accountant.

There's ony the one birth reg for a John Couzens (any spelling) in the right place at the right time.

Merry 04-09-20 21:25

Was her b'day 12 Feb 1870?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...30&pId=3062320

Merry 04-09-20 21:47

erolls 1927-1931

70 Elms Rd, Fareham, Hants

Alfred George Couzens
Ada Ph(o)ebe Couzens

John Victor is there to for the first year.

Merry 04-09-20 22:18

I know Ada said she was a widow in 1939, but I wonder if they were separated as there's this Alfred here:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...1f&pId=2844082

There is a death in 1944 to fit, but sadly no probate entry.

Phoenix 05-09-20 07:33

Ooh, thank you, Merry. That eroll demonstrates that I'm on the right lines, and the 1939 entry led me to 1863 Portsea births.

What's the bet that this is Alfred:

Births Dec 1863
Baigent Alfred John Portsea I. 2b 353

Phoenix 05-09-20 07:50

Okay, there is also this:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...596%2F0315%2F1


Alfred John Baigent aged 47, widower in Portsmouth. Could he appear twice? I note that he is a carpenter in both places.

Phoenix 05-09-20 08:43

These things just get wierder and wierder.

Alfred John Baigent, respectable widower, marries Maria Louisa Whittle, spinster, in 1919.

Here's his probate entry in 1944:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...7?pId=17035454

The executor is Maria Louisa Baigent.

Here's her death:

Deaths Dec 1946
Baigent Maria L 68 Portsmouth 6b355


But if everything is straightforward and legit (and this is the wrong Alfred), where are Alfred and Maria in 1939?

Phoenix 05-09-20 16:51

Okay, so heere they are at 121 Wingfield St still:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...52B%2F005%2F03


Arthur is giving a DOB 19 Sep 1876 but he is 78 when he dies, five years later.


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