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Janet in Yorkshire 21-02-19 14:07

What became of Caroline Gooch post 1871 census?
 
In 1851 she was in the family home in Great Grimsby –and her birth was registered Q2 1851 in Caistor reg dist.
Her father Robert Stephen Gooch was a ships carpenter and the family moved around a lot. Her mother Phillis died in 1858 and in 1861 Caroline was in the Gooch family home at Mundesley, where she and most of her siblings were in the care of a maternal aunt.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

In 1871 Caroline was in Marylebone, at the residence of her eldest sister. I’ve never been able to find a later census reference or a likely marriage or death that fits.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...619&h=11083083

Note Sister Beta was Ann Eliza Gooch, who began to call herself Beatrice A E Gooch when she was of employable age. In 1871, although she was recorded as Mrs Weldon, she had never been married and I have no idea who “Mr Weldon” was. She married for the first time in 1877 to Thomas Letherbarrow, calling herself Beatrice Ann Gooch.
I don’t know who visitor Henry Heys was. I see both Henry and Beta declared that they were of independent means and that Caroline was a “milliner.” An interesting household, lol.

Jay

Merry 21-02-19 14:31

Jay, have you eliminated this death?

Gooch Caroline b 1852 d 1874
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Hackney, London, England

There is a Willam Gooch, aged 4 1/2 hours who was buried two days before Caroline (LMA records on Ancestry). I looked for his birth reg on the GRO index to see if he was illegitimate or not, but I can't find a record for him. There's not a birth reg on FreeBMD either.

Janet in Yorkshire 21-02-19 14:46

That's interesting about the baby. It will probably be worth my while trying to investigate that and also that specific Caroline death.
To be honest, it's a long time since I worked on this line and I can't remember the ins and outs of all the deaths I did try to chase backwards. I know that some of them turned out to be married women, so obviously were not my lady.

Jay

Merry 21-02-19 14:53

I think William was born in Hackney WH, so it's quite surprising that his birth wasn't registered.

Janet in Yorkshire 21-02-19 14:54

Interesting to see that both deaths were at Hackney workhouse. I would have expected the staff to have complied with the rules and to have registered both the birth and the death of the child. Unless it wasn't compulsory in 1874?
I certainly hadn't seen that record before, so thank you Merry.
Jay

Janet in Yorkshire 21-02-19 14:55

Lol, posts crossed!
Jay

Merry 21-02-19 14:57

Maybe the Hackney Caroline was this one?

1861 Census:

Caroline Gooch, parents William, Harriet b 1852 South Hackney, Middlesex

I've not looked for her in 1871 to see if she was still unmarried. The child might then have been named for her father.

Janet in Yorkshire 21-02-19 14:59

Baby's death seems to have been registered, but not the birth.

Jay

Merry 21-02-19 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merry (Post 357102)
Maybe the Hackney Caroline was this one?

1861 Census:

Caroline Gooch, parents William, Harriet b 1852 South Hackney, Middlesex

I've not looked for her in 1871 to see if she was still unmarried. The child might then have been named for her father.

Hackney Caroline was still with her parents in 1871:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

I feel it's quite likely she was the one who died in the WH in 1874.

Merry 21-02-19 16:12

When I typed my last post I hadn't looked at the 1871 census page, but I see now that Caroline (dau of Wm and Harriet) was recorded as an imbecile. I don't think that would necessarily mean that she can't be the woman who delivered William three years later.


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