Madge Belmont - Handcuff Queen
 

I have seen my great aunt described as such.

She is on a Streatham memorial: http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Burials.htm#streatham

But her real name was Mary Jane Elizabeth Hawkins, nee Darling.

Here she is in 1911: http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/23...nSearchResults

Do you think a Portsmouth woman could have passed herself off as an American?

btw, she and her infant daughter Mabel are completely missing from the 1901 census.

O Phoenix the shame! I can hardly believe I have been consorting with someone e who has such LOW relatives.

*Lies down with the Sal volatile*

OC

Lol!

That is only half the story.

The bits that I know to be true are that her husband gassed himself, she raided the children's piggy banks: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...hlight=belmont

and she abandoned said children to her long suffering mother in law.

Absolutely, my theatricals were always fibbing a bit to make themselves more glamourous (and harder for me to find!). My plain old Percy Maling born in Rawtenstall moved the Blackpool, became Neville Warrender then Otto von Konigsmark.

So Madge/Mary is aged 32 in 1911 and 40 in 1931?

What name is her death registered under?

Yes, I think she could have passed herself off as an American!

On the 1911 census she has had her marriage years and births figures crossed through. 14 years for her marriage seems right. Three living children one dec'd. Would that be Mabel and Sidney alive and Charles dec'd? Do you know who the other living child is?

Is that Mabel aged 9 born Gray's Essex with her Hawkins grandparents in 1911? But registered Q1 1901 as Mabel Victoria? If Mabel's brother Sidney was in hospital I wonder where the other living child was?

Did Mabel marry Frederick Mellon in 1934? In 1939 she says her dob was 31 Jan 1905! if that is her then I would imagine it's likely she was born 31 Jan 1901. Ah, her death reg says 31 Jan 1901 so that's good.

Ah, so this is the other son

Births Dec 1902
HAWKINS Walter James D Orsett 4a 633


as he's with his father in 1911.