Emma Sarah Riley
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Emma Sarah Riley. Daughter Emma was known as Em Date and place of birth 17 JUL 1848 - according to her baptism record. No trace of her birth reached the GRO Merry has found this, indexed as Raily! Names of parents James Riley and Eliza Jane nee Couzens Date and place of baptism - if applicable 21 AUG 1853 at St Mary's, Portsea, Hants, together with an elder and a younger sister, both of whom subsequently died Details of each of his or her marriages - if any 16 Nov 1873, at the parish church, Portsmouth - which I think was St Thomas & I know I checked, but haven't noted! - to William Hawkins Occupation(s) - if any Chairwoman (sic) in the 1871 census Military service - if any None Addresses where they lived 1851 Oxford St Portsea 1853 - 1873 5 St Mary St, Portsea 1881 Spring Gardens View, Portsea - next door to the in laws 1890 34 Brighton St 1891 34 Brighton St 1901 - 1937 10 Landport St Landport St, both Portsea Date, place and cause of death 28/04/1937 at 10 Landport Street, aged 89. Death registered by daughter, Beatrice. Date and place of burial / cremation. Kingston Cemetery Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Memorial inscription - if any A grandchild thinks there would have been a stone, but a lot of them have been cleared:mad: Had at least nine siblings. Only three survived to adulthood. When asked, said "you don't want to know about the past" Emma herself had nine children, one of whom died. This is not remembered by the family and possible was a Walter who died as a baby. |
Did she get married, Phoenix?
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I'm just not quick enough at this game, am I?
Born, married, lived and died on Portsea Island. I don't know whether she ever stepped on mainland Britain at all. |
What about this?
Births Sep 1848 RAILY Emma Sarah Portsea I 7 133 :D |
Merry, how DARE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pmsl!! :D:D:D:D
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If you knew how I had searched for her - especially when I did not know her year of birth - even under the variants of her mother's name!
What is really gutting is that some of the pr entries I have extracted use RAILEY as a name. (Am now trying to say the name with a Portsea/Irish accent. The family was supposed to have come over during the potato famine, but her grandfather was apprenticed in the dockyard some forty years before she was born:d) |
I was checking some old notes for Emma's birth. I last looked for her in 1978:eek:
Feels very old:d |
emma riley
Hi I am related to Emma Riley . My father has always maintained through the hearsay of the family that there were Irish roots. Have you found anything? Regards
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Hello China
Welcome to the forum, and sorry I missed this post. One of Dad's cousins always said that the family came over at the time of the potato famine. THIS IS WRONG. I imagine that the family did come from Ireland, but I have no idea when or where from. Emma's grandfather died in 1843, unfortunately. But in 1841 the census says he was born in Hampshire and he was apprenticed to a fireman in Portsmouth Dockyard in 1808. Can I ask how you are related? A direct descendant of Emma, or one of her three surviving siblings? PM me if you don't want the details public. |
Hi Pheonix. I was always led to believe through family hearsay that the rileys were from Ireland. As i did my DNA with Ancestry it gave me 26% Irish. I am yet to determine where from and would be inclined to think that the rileys may be the connection. Particularily as others have been told the same rumours. Although the census says Emma Sarah Riley was born Portsea , I have also not found her birth registered. My connection with her is that she is my great great grandmother. Have you any updated info? Regards Bev
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Hi, can i just add that Portsea is in Portsmouth Hampshire.
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Hi China
If you look at post No 1, Merry has found the birth entry, indexed as Raily. I don't doubt that the Rileys were Irish, just that they came to England rather earlier than my family believed. The family is in Portsmouth from 1841, and we were in touch with cousins through until the 1980s |
Thats interesting, which cousins and where were they from? Regards Bev
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Jim Riley was my grandfather's cousin and lived at the back of the football ground.
I never met, but know there were also cousins running a newsagent on Hayling Island in the 60s. |
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Hi Pheonix, I am at a loss with our Riley line. Further back there is James Riley who is Emmas grandfather born c1797 according to 1841 census. He as you know married Polling but i am now at a loss. Have you had any joy further back? Or if i was to order their marriage certificate would it provide the information of his parents, being so far back? Regards Bev
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Hi China
The Poling/Pulling/Poulden line goes straight back to Petersfield and (apart from the fact that the men never seem to marry) it's there for generations. But James and Eleanor's marriage at St Marys, Portsea has Eleanor's friends and relations as witnesses. It is too early for parent's names. |
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Thanks Pheonix, thats a real shame i wonder if i can ever get any further back on this line. Maybe if James had had siblings i couldve taken that track but seems he was an only child unless you know anything i dont? Regards Bev
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If he hadn't died so young, we'd have a date of birth to go on.
This is age at death: RILEY, JAMES 49 Order GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 99 It agrees with burial details, and the fact that he was apprenticed in 1808, aged 14. Unfortunately, those records don't show his father. |
Hi, do you have the burial details? regards bev
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