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Kit 18-10-20 08:26

Help finding a birth
 
Joanna/Johanna Toten married William Cope by licence in 1758.

Joanna Marriage

She was a minor, which to me means she was born after 1737.

Her father is Joshua Toten and he died and left a will in 1766.
Joshua Toten Will

The will states Joanna had a brother Joshua and she was a widow.

I can't find her birth and not knowing who the mother is makes it hard too. Toten is mistranscribed by ancestry in so many different ways, some start with S making the search difficult.

Could someone have a look and see what they find? I'm hoping for beginners luck. lol

Phoenix 18-10-20 08:30

Any reason why this isn't her parents' marriage: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource

Kit 18-10-20 08:37

William's will. He died 1765-1766.

Will

He states there was a marriage settlement and Joanna only received 10 guineas in the will. His children inherited the bulk of the estate, assuming they reached adulthood.

Kit 18-10-20 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 382514)
Any reason why this isn't her parents' marriage: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource

No reason at all.

Given that surname is mentioned it is likely.

I have seen births to Joshua and Hannah but no Joanna

Phoenix 18-10-20 08:41

I wonder whether this is a mistranscription (from 1743!) for Joseph?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...7a&pId=6073125

Phoenix 18-10-20 08:55

Okay, let's try agaain

Joshua: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...7a&pId=1666024


Down as Foten

Kit 18-10-20 08:58

I don't know. It is definitely son of.

Kit 18-10-20 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 382519)
Okay, let's try agaain

Joshua: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...7a&pId=1666024


Down as Foten

That's good. Definitely Joshua.

Foten is a new variation.

Phoenix 18-10-20 09:16

Okay, all the references I can find to the family are in St Luke's Finsbury. But these only start in 1740. Joshua is described as a plaisterer, so definitely the right people.

If Joanna is the eldest - and I'd say she has to be - she is probably the eldest. So she may be born wherever her mother came from.

Merry 18-10-20 09:37

Also, there are a lot of impossible to read entries at St Luke's, Fnsbury - the bottom three or four entries on every page I've looked at are blackened out most of the way across the page.

I did see one with just the first name transcribed - Joanna - but that was in Nov 1741 so probably unlikely. Goodness knows how the name was read from the image!


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