Help please - name confusions
I have the marriage of William John Lally and Elizabeth Luke march qtr 1863 in Aston.
FMP has the parish record https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_846306726 It gives his fathers name as Michael Shephard Lally. William John Lally's birth was registered in 1841 at St James Clerkenwell. MMN HEBBARD A marriage between Michael Sheppard Lally and Sarah Hebbard is on Family Search for 6 June 1836 at St Andrews Holborn 1841 census has Michael, Sarah and daughter Ann Lally at St James Clerkenwell. Michael is a tailor born in Ireland. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...7_659_660-0263 I can't find them in 1851 but in 1861 Sarah's husband is John H Sheppard same as as Michael should be, a tailor and born in Ireland. All the family are called Sheppard now. Definitely the same family as William has the same occupation as in 1871 (watch hand maker) https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true 1871 John Henry Shepperd is a widower and living with William and his family as are William's siblings. John Henry was born in Westport, County Mayo. Ann's occupation of actress made me smile, Sarah is a ballet girl. https://www.ancestry.com/interactive...&usePUBJs=true Are Michael Shepperd Lally and John Henry Shepperd the same man? I haven't found a death for Michael. Or Did Sarah marry his brother /cousin? I can't find another marriage for her. |
I'm not answering your question, but the last child registered as Lally is this one:
Births Dec 1849 LALLY Charles Michael W London 2 257 (mmn Hebbard) Deaths Jun 1850 LALLY Charles Clerkenwell 3 56 (aged 9 months at burial in June 1850 address Margaret St, Clerkenwell) |
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I think the name change happened when they moved from London to Birmingham. I've found two children born in Birmingham MMN Hebbard Henry Lally Sheppard b 1853 Sarah Sheppard b 1854 |
So, 1851 they could either in in London or Birmingham or somewhere in between :confused::confused:
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I don't know if you have Sarah's death, Marg, but this looks like it:
SHEPPARD, SARAH 55 GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 26 |
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Thank you |
He's reverted to his real name on death
Michael Sheppard Lally Sep qtr 1893 Birmingham 6d 96 aged 81 |
I've found him as John Henry Sheppard in 1881 and 1891. He's remarried to a Selina.
Marriage was 1873 In Birmingham. Jun qtr 6d 224 Michael Sheppard Lally to Selina Jones. This bloke doesn't know what his name is from one minute to the next.:D |
I have found a John H Sheppard in Wellington, Shropshire in 1851:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2f0010788715 He is a tailor, says he is married, born in Ireland, but he's by himself. Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1997 Folio 154 Page 17 |
So, the question is .........
Why did he keep changing his name? His children used the name Sheppard. His son William John Lally b 1841 kept the name William John Sheppard. He died in 1918 in Birmingham. |
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