Frederick (Fred) Hogg 1854-1897
 

1891 census: I have Frederick Hogg (a Tanners Labourer) aged 37 living in Warrington, Cheshire with his wife Lucy aged 38. Both born in Derby, Derbyshire.
With them are children Charles aged 11 born Chesterfield, Harry aged 3 born Derby and Eliza aged 1 born Latchford, Warrington.

I cannot find a marriage for Frederick and Lucy nor can I find a birth for Frederick. Obviously I can't look for Lucy's birth as I don't know her maiden name.

I've searched Births, Marriages (both GRO and Parish), Baptisms, Census returns but am up against a brick wall.

I know that Frederick died in Warrington and was buried there on 6 Sep 1897.

Note: All my searches are on FMP.

There is this birth for an Eliza Hogg, suggesting a mother's maiden name of Parker:

HOGG, ELIZA PARKER
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 255

There's a very confused public tree on Ancestry saying a Lucy Madeley was married to Frederick Hogg but also with a Parker surname.

I need to look at it carefully as it's rather muddled!

There is an Eliza Hogg, 1889, born Latchford on cheshirebmd, no mmn and no corresponding entry on gro.

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1881 Census

Lucy Parker Head W 28 no occupation born Derby
Sarah Ann Daur 10 Scholar Derby
Edward Son 6 Scholar Derby
Elizabeth Daur 3 Scholar Derby Idiot from birth
Charles Son 1 Chesterfield Derbyshire
Richard Jones Brother in law Mar 34 Iron Mould Unemployed Leamington, Warwickshire
Ruth Jones Sister in law Mar 34 Derby
Edward Jones Nephew 11 Scholar Derby
Richard Jones Nephew 8 Scholar Derby
Lucy Jones Niece 1 Derby

Charles must be the Charles Hogg on the 1891 Census.

According to the tree, there was another son, Frederick, born in 1894.

Here is the GRO entry:

HOGG, FRED MADELY
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 285

This time with the Madely surname.

Lucy Madeley married Edward Parker in Derby Q4 1870.

Edward Parker died aged 28 Q1 1880 at Chesterfield.

1901 Census

Lucy is still in Warrington with Charles P Hogg 21, Henry 13, Eliza 11, Fred 6, and a lodger just given as "Andrew".

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview....&pId=22330521


1901 and Lucy is a widow wit her son Charles P Hogg and other children.


It looks as if Charles was the son of Edward Parker and Lucy nee Madeley.