Thanks. I have merged the Bearkins account into yours, Qwackers.

Hi , I have been pondering about the Scottish connection , could it not be that the connection is not Ellen Callen , but William Grimshaw born in 1854 in Glasgow could is grand father have been Scottish , as there are quite a few Grimshaws in Glasgow can we look into that . Thanks

Sorry I mean great grand father as I think William Grimshaw father was born in Blackrod . In Lancashire . I was speaking to a relative of mine who I haven't seen for a long time , and they agreed that there was a auntie in Glasgow , as my mum and dad would visit her when in Scotland . Thanks

I have been looking for a reason why people would move to Scotland in the 1830s , a lot of Irish people were encouraged to move there to have a better quality of life and there was a shortage of workers . It was a big pull factor . The same reason may have applied to people moving from England . The living in the court houses was probably horrendous , and I suppose if you thought it would be better you would take a chance .

Have you looked back on this thread yet?

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/F...+grimshaw+1854

I think you would do better to find out exactly who this aunt or great aunt was who you used to visit in Scotland/Glasgow. If she is a descendant of family in Scotland from much further back I don't see how she can be your aunt or great aunt, but it might be simpler to work out if we knew who she was.

So you are thinking about the paternal great-grandfather of William Grimshaw b 1854 in Glasgow?

From that other thread we know his father was b about 1825-9ish in Wigan/Blackrod (various census records). When that William Grimshaw married Ellen Callard in 1844 he didn't give a father's name at the marriage, but you have his father as William Grimshaw b Backrod?

Please could you post up everything you know about William sr from Blackrod, so we don't repeat the same lookups. Thanks.

I see two years ago we spent time unsuccessfully trying to sort out the baptism for illegitimate William X b about 1825-9.

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/F...rod#post315396

We seem to have given up before coming to a conclusion. Did you find anything more? I'm a but confused as to how his paternal grandfather is a Grimshaw when his father seems to be unknown (ie the great-grandfather and grandfather of William b 1854).

No we didn't find anything else out from that . So the matter was unconcluded And the trail went cold as we couldn't find the right person .

I'm not sure which post you are referring to.

Presumably post #17.