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Phoenix 07-04-14 20:51

Christian name: Clifford
 
I know one person called Clifford. I assumed the name to be relatively rare. When I looked on freebmd, however, I could not disentangle him from the hordes of other Cliffords with his surname.

Presumably it is like Sidney and Ernest: names once popular which have lost their appeal.

But why was it popular? Was there a famous Clifford after whom the rest were named?

(Apologies to Merry: her thread jogged my memory, as the only other Clifford I know of died in WW1)

Merry 07-04-14 21:33

I just noticed I only have three Clifford's on my tree (out of 8,000 people) and they were all born in 1898!

Sue from Southend 07-04-14 21:39

There's an interesting article here http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-9236682.html about "extinct" names, Clifford being one of them!
OH's Grandfather was a Clifford (born 1899, Merry!) and OH himself is a Cliff but short for Clifton courtesy of a Canadian friend of his parents.

kiterunner 07-04-14 22:08

Some of the names that they mention in that article as "still" being popular have gone out of fashion and then come back in, such as Lily and Hannah, so they can't be sure that the names they say are dying out won't come back into fashion too.

Phoenix 07-04-14 23:10

Once a generation stops associating a name with liverspots, perms, gnarled knuckles, visible underwear etc, it can come back into its own.

I have a penchant for contemporary victorian fiction, full of Dorothys and Dorises who don't have rheumy eyes or walk with sticks.

marquette 07-04-14 23:55

I thought my mum's cousin had a fairly unique name, Thora, but when I was looking for her marriage, I found 32 Thora's married the same year, 1940, (and that was just in NSW).

That number dropped to 9 in 1963 ! There was only one Thora married 1850-1900 and 5 between 1900 and 1920.

Similarly, there were only 10 birth registrations for Thora before 1900, but 134 from then till 1913.

I just looked at freeBMD births for a comparison - a scattering of 2 or 3 every quarter or so up to 1910, then each quarter taking up the whole of my computer screen through till about 1926, then gradually dropping back to 2-3 each quarter by 1950.

So what made "Thora" popular ?

anne fraser 08-04-14 07:56

I have Clifford as a surname in my tree which it is claimed goes back to a Knight De Clifford who came over with William the Conqueror so perhaps in some cases it is a surname being used as a christian name. I came across a telegraph article on extinct British names and Clifford was one that had no babies called it last year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-dying-out.htm

No Fanny's or Willie's either.

Sue from Southend 08-04-14 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiterunner (Post 269788)
Some of the names that they mention in that article as "still" being popular have gone out of fashion and then come back in, such as Lily and Hannah, so they can't be sure that the names they say are dying out won't come back into fashion too.


My Mother born 1920, was named Hannah and hated it as to her it was very old fashioned. All her contemporaries were named Doris, Joan, Eileen etc. When she died, acquaintances were amazed to find out that her name wasn't Ann but Hannah because she never used it. But look how popular it is now.

Similarly my youngest grand daughter is a Matilda. Twenty years ago I'm sure that would have been considered extinct too:d

Merry 08-04-14 09:41

I remember when Charles and Diana named their firstborn William and I thought it was so old fashioned - my father's name! Now there are loads of Williams around (younger than b 1982)

Margaret in Burton 08-04-14 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by marquette (Post 269795)
I thought my mum's cousin had a fairly unique name, Thora, but when I was looking for her marriage, I found 32 Thora's married the same year, 1940, (and that was just in NSW).

That number dropped to 9 in 1963 ! There was only one Thora married 1850-1900 and 5 between 1900 and 1920.

Similarly, there were only 10 birth registrations for Thora before 1900, but 134 from then till 1913.

I just looked at freeBMD births for a comparison - a scattering of 2 or 3 every quarter or so up to 1910, then each quarter taking up the whole of my computer screen through till about 1926, then gradually dropping back to 2-3 each quarter by 1950.

So what made "Thora" popular ?


I knew a Thora, she was born in 1912.

Of course there was the actress Thora Hird.


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