Oh, hang on - I thought you knew it was him! As he is five years older than he should be, should we be looking in case that's not his cert? (don't want you wasting your £9.50!)

Hmmmm, well having looked a bit more now, I have to say I can't find another candidate for that death record, so, unless it was a bad spelling of someone elses surname, it probably is him after all.

For all those lovely people who have replied to this thread, I thought I'd add this communication I have been having this week with someone with the same woman in their tree on Ancestry, No answers but interesting!


Hi there, I see you have the Logsdon family in your tree Wilhelmina (1835) and James (1826-1898) Logsdon are in my direct line, as I suspect they are yours. I descend from Wilhelmina Emma Logsdon (1859) I was wondering where you managed to find the parentage of Wilhelmina Coralie, I have puzzled over this for years and expect her baptism was in France. Have you any idea when she came to England? And have you ever found a marriage for her?
Would be interested to hear from you if you have the time
Sue




Hi. Yes it is very difficult and I have hit some real brick walls on this one. I know somewhere in our family tree there is a French ancestor (as a story in the family always has said that one of our ancestors was the Aide to Napoleon, and this line is where I think it comes from).

The 1861 and 1871 Census Records lists Wilhelmina (Wilhelmine) being born in Paris, France and being the wife of James Logsdon and they make her DOB as being 1935/1936.

The only record of birth I can find is the Record for 'Wilhelmine Sidonie de Layve' (6 April 1835).

I have not yet found any marriage fact.

Hope that this helps?

Richard




Hello Richard,
Thanks for your reply. It would be wonderful to have a link to Napoleon, On my Husband's side we have a link to Nelson!
I think we are the same with the 61/71 censuses, that is all I really have. Apart from I think she has signed Napoleon James Logsdon's Marriage record as a witness. And the name there is Wilhelmina Coralie Versigny de Vere. I have just sent for his birth cert in a hope to get her name. This could also indicate that they didn't actually marry. To add to the complication, the same person has signed as a witness to one of her daughter's marriages with different fornames but Versigny Logsdon as the surname. I am convinced the handwriting is the same!
Would you like me to let you know when my cert arrives?
Sue




Hi Sue
Many thanks for some extremely interesting information. I would be most grateful for any information that you have to share with me. I have contacted the International Napoleonic Society to see if they can help with a list of the Aides of Napoleon, thinking that I might be able to trace some information from them. I have not heard anything from them yet but will let you know if anything positive comes from it.
Kind regards
Richard

Oh my goodness, what do you make of this 1901 census, Ellen Adrienne Logsdon who married John Wright living with her mother!!! Corralie Servien
b1834 Paris, a British citizen. How many names can one woman use????

Name: Ellen Wright
[Ellen Seriven]
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Coralie Seriven
Gender: Female
Where born: St George in The East, London, England
Civil parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: North Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Wright 37
Ellen Wright 18
John Wright 15
George Wright 13
Coralie Seriven 67
David Logsdon 21
Alice Logsdon 19


And, she is still around in 1911
LOGSDON, David Head Single M 31 1880 Cabinet Maker London Shoreditch
LOGSDON, George Brother Single M 24 1887 Cabinet Maker London Shoreditch
LOGSDON, John Brother Single M 15 1896 Cabinet Maker London Shoreditch
WRIGHT, Ellen Aunt Married M 46 1865 Cigar Maker London Stratford
SERIVEN, Coralie Grandmother Widow F 76 1835 Private Means France N K Resident

Haven't you found her death reg yet? :rolleyes::p

I think that surname should be SCRIVEN - she's on the 1881 census as Paris born.

*Wonders if she bothered marrying William Scriven?*

Not that I could see!

Oh I remember now, James Logsdon didn't die until 1884, but she wasn't married to him, so she may have married Wm instead?!!!

In 1891 she is a widow and the mother of Richard Webb! (whoever he is!)

Maybe she is the mother of his wife, Mrs Elizabeth Webb, aged 35 b Shoreditch?

Hmmmm......in 1861 and 1871 they (James and Wilhemina Logsdon)had no daughters called Elizabeth.

Richard Webb, cabinet maker is single in 1881 despite having several over 10 years children in 1891!! (maybe I have the wrong person?)

I think it's time I went and did something else!!!!!!!!