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Crafty Sue 08-02-24 16:12

Emily Johnson
 
Please may I have some help with my gt grandmother? This what I know so far, can anyone help with finding her death or on 1921 census?

Born 13 Dec 1855 in Brighton, Sussex (I have birth cert)
1861 & 1871: census she is with her parents in Reigate
5th April 1884: married William Henry Pannell in Reigate by licence (I have cert)
1891 census: Emily & William are in Reigate, Surrey
23 Feb 1901: William Pannell dies
1901 census: Emily is a widow still in Reigate
1911 census: Emily is a widow living in Bath, Somerset
04 Sep 1915: Emily married William Tillett Thomas by licence.(I have cert)

I have not found her death or on the 1921 census.

Many thanks for reading & any help offered!

Merry 08-02-24 16:18

What should the birth year say?!

Crafty Sue 08-02-24 17:03

oops, sorry! its 13 Dec 1855.

Katarzyna 08-02-24 17:33

Could this be her?

1921 census
Emily Tuthill Batten Head Female 1880 40 Bath, Somerset, England Home Duties -
Kenneth George Batten Son Male 1913 8 Bath, Somerset, England - -
Emily Thomas Mother-in-law widow Female 1855 65 Bath, Somerset, England Home Duties

40, Belvybear??, Bath, Somerset, England

I see she was living 40 Belvedere Lansdown Road Bath, Bath, Somerset, England in 1911

Edit. No, can't be right. Emily wasn't a Thomas in 1911 until she married in 1915. Sorry!

kiterunner 08-02-24 18:20

There is an Emily Thomas death in Bath in 1935, age 80, but she is probably the one who Kat found on the 1921 census.

How old is William on the marriage cert, and what other details are given for him? I can't find any trace of a William Tillett Thomas apart from the marriage.

Katarzyna 08-02-24 18:21

Could be death?
THOMAS, EMILY 80
GRO Reference: 1935 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 603

Crafty Sue 08-02-24 18:42

Sorry, should have mentioned that I'd previously ordered this death cert, which is not correct:
Name: Emily Thomas
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1855
Registration Date: Jun 1935
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 603

the details on her marriage to William Pannell:
William: aged 29, father Joseph Pannell dec'd
Emily: aged 28, father Henry Johnson dec'd
Witnesses were John Bromley & Rose Johnson.

details for her marriage to William Tillett Thomas:
William: aged 73 widower, no father name given
Emily: aged 60 widow, father Henry Johnson dec'd
witnesses were Thomas Fellows & Alicia Jane Pannell (daughter, my grandmother).


My mother (who didn't like to share any information) did say that she thought Emily died when my mother was about 5 or 6 years old. That would put a date range 1927/1928. My mother thought she remembered her mother (Alicia) rushing off somewhere to be near Emily. Unfortunately, that's not been very helpful in my search!

Merry 08-02-24 18:44

You haven't said what you know about her last husband. Do you know when and where he was born? If not, I presume his father's details are on the 1915 cert you have? Was he a widower at the marriage?

Crafty Sue 08-02-24 18:47

for reference, this is Emily on the 1911 census

1911:Bath, Somerset, England - 9 Westgate Buildings
RG14; Piece: 14705; Schedule Number: 30
Emily Pannell 57
Mary Elizabeth Pannell 18 - daughter
Ivy Lillian Pannell 9 - grand daughter

8 children, 7 living, 1 died

Crafty Sue 08-02-24 18:48

Merry, unfortunately there is no father shown on the William Tillett Thomas marriage cert


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