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Langley Vale Sue 19-09-12 14:26

Joseph Roe or Rowe MMMMFF
 
Name - "official" name and what they were known as – Joseph Ro(w)e

Date and place of birth – About 1769, Houghton, Stockbridge, Hampshire

Names of parents – probably Joseph & Martha (nee unknown) Roe

Date and place of baptism – probably 26 December 1769, Houghton, Stockbridge, Hampshire

Details of each of his or her marriages – to Lucy Tonge, 10 April 1800, at Stockbridge, Hampshire

Occupation(s) – Yeoman (on marriage record)

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
Marriage record in 1800 states “of Houghton Drayton”, Hampshire
At least four children baptised in Stockbridge, Hampshire between 1798 & 1810
1851 census - Kings Sombourn, Hampshire, living with daughter Mary Russell & her family


Date, place and cause of death – possibly either 1855 or 1862. I have found two Joseph Roe deaths listed in Stockbridge, either of which could be ‘my’ Joseph, except 1855 would make him 85 and 1862 would make him 92!

Date and place of burial – not found

Details of will / administration of their estate - unknown

Memorial inscription - unknown

Son George Ro(w)e
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Shona 19-09-12 15:09

I've found him on the 1851 census:

King's Sombourn, Hampshire

Ephram Russell, head, 57, woodman, born Houghton
Mary Russell, wife, 51, born Houghton
George Russell, son, 15, woodman, born Houghton
Rosa Russell, daughter, 12, scholar, born Houghton
William, Russell, son, 10, scholar, born Houghton
Joseph Roe, father-in-law, widowed, 81, retired farmer, born Houghton

King's Sombourn and Houghton are both in the Stockbridge registration district.

Can't see any matches for the 1861 census.

Shona 19-09-12 15:23

Getting my census dates mixed up! I'd transposed 1851 and 1861 - 1851 conducted on 30 March and 1861 on 7 April.

kiterunner 19-09-12 17:18

So the census says that Joseph was born about 1769-70. Of course it could be wrong, but if he is the one baptised in 1761 he would be 38 when he married Lucy, which would be quite old for a first marriage. Does the marriage entry state whether he was a bachelor or a widower, Sue?

Shona 19-09-12 17:27

On the 1841 census, Joseph is aged 70.

Shona 19-09-12 17:38

Found this baptism on Ancestry for Joseph Roe

Christening Date: 26 Dec 1769

Christening Place: Houghton, Hampshire, England

Father's Name: Joseph Roe

Mother's Name: Martha

There's no image, but the date is a better fit.

kiterunner 19-09-12 17:42

Hampshire Record Office have a will of a Joseph Roe, sen, of Houghton, Hampshire, blacksmith, from 1791.

There are also these entries in their catalogue:

FindingNo 8M52/2

Title Assignment of mortgage on a messuage, barns, stables, outhouses, gardens and backside in Houghton with 2 closes adjoining; close of meadow called Chideocks and 1 acre of land in the common meadow called Drayghton Mead

Date 10 Oct 1808

Description (i) Executors of the will of the Rt Hon Sir Giles Rooke, and Joseph Roe of Houghton, yeoman (eldest son of Joseph Roe, late of Houghton, yeoman)

(ii) Edward Cheyney, yeoman and Thomas Withers, yeoman both of Eling

RefNo Show the rest of this collection
FindingNo 8M52/3

Title Lease for a year (release missing), of a messuage, with appurtenances and 4 acres of land in Houghton (bounds include River Test on east and road to Bossington on west) and land in Houghton Drayton tithing (bounds include Bossington Road on north and Mams Lane on South)

Date 24 Nov 1815

Description (i) Joseph Roe of Stockbridge, yeoman and Thomas Warner of Romsey

(ii) Joseph Foster Barham, esq of Stockbridge

Not sure how many different Joseph Roes in all these!!

Shona 19-09-12 17:48

The marriage record shows that Joseph Roe was 30 when he marriied.

What's clear is that there is more than one Joseph Roe, yeoman, born about the same time in that area.

Shona 19-09-12 18:05

Searched Ancestry for Joseph Rowe (and variants) births in Hampshire.

Four matches came up - all in Houghton:

Joseph Roe - 27 Dec 1716
Joseph Roe - 21 Oct 1739
Joseph Roe - 15 Apr 1746
Joseph Roe - 26 Dec 1769

Shona 19-09-12 18:09

Marriages:

Joseph Roe and Sarah Dixon - 22 May 1743, Houghton, Hampshire, England

Joseph Roe and Milö Allen - 1 Jun 1743, Romsey, Hampshire, England

Joseph Roe and Mary Blake - 17 Oct 1762, Stockbridge, Hampshire, England

Joseph Roe and Lucy Tonge - 10 Apr 1800, Stockbridge, Hampshire, England


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