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Phoenix 14-08-19 12:53

John Rice of Chulmleigh
 
Apologies this is so long: I'm trying to establish John's parents.



This is John in 1861, living in Barnstaple:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...65/edit/record


He is a railway guard, aged 44, with wife Eliza (nee Geen) and numerous children, whose births confirm the mother's maiden name.


The eldest daughter is called Jane, and is still at home, aged 19 on that census.


John's marriage to Eliza Geen took place in Exeter, 29 October 1839, when he gave his father's name as John, and both their occupations as Carrier:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...844318%2f00038


In 1851, John's occupation is given as coachman - so of course he isn't at home!
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...1892_1892-0084


Once he joins the railway, John's career blossoms and he starts to move around. In 1881, he has taken a widowed aunt under his wing, Ann Dallyn:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...60/edit/record


This is the marriage of William Rawlins Dallyn to Ann Baker in 1847:https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...MAR%2F4132%2F1


William's father was another William Dallyn, a malster and William originated in Barnstaple, though he was John's age, rather than an earlier generation.


(pauses for breath...)


Now the only baptism of a John Rice, son of John, that I can find at the right time is this:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F501266923%2F1


Christmas Day 1816, John son of John and Johanna Rice, father a joiner.



Johanna appears to have been buried as Jane, aged 30, in 1825:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F518163840%2F1


John senior married for the first time in Burrington in 1814 a Joanna Dallyn: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...AR%2F89780%2F1

So, although it seems unlikely that Ann Dallyn was John junior's aunt (it sounds like a courtesy title for a looser relationship) am I reasonable in suggesting Joanna Dallyn as John junior's mother?

kiterunner 14-08-19 13:21

Sounds likely. But it is possible that Joanna / Jane and William Rawlins could be siblings or half-siblings even with that age gap.

Phoenix 14-08-19 13:40

%$£%*****!

I've just found the probate for Ann Dallyn:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults


This makes clear that the link is through William's (second?) wife. I'm not giving up yet, though. I have a DNA link which I think is through the Rice family, but it is miserably distant if their tree is correct.

Phoenix 14-08-19 14:24

This explains Ann Dallyn and Eliza Mary Baker: 1871 census

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults


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