Upholland Billinge ancestors help please .
 

hi , looking for my great grandfather , Joseph Whalley . My grandfather George was born in Billinge in approx 1863 , trying to trace the line back on both sides . George married a Esther Heyes in Upholland in 1887 . Any help with this would be much appreciated . Thanks

Here's the 1881 census record for the family on Family Search:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXF-LWZY

(assuming you don't have an ancestry or fmp sub?)

From the 1881 census:

Ormskirk Road, Orrell, Lancs

Joseph Whalley, head, married, 45, ag lab, born Ramford, Lancs
Mary Whalley, wife, married, 44, born Orrell
Ellen Whalley, dau, unmarried, 21, colliery labourer, born Orrell
George Whalley, son, unmarried, 18, colliery labourer, born Billinge
John Whalley, son, unmarried, 16, colliery post boy, born Billinge
Joseph Whalley, son, unmarried, 14, colliery labourer, born Billinge
Mary Whalley, dau, unmarried, 9, scholar, born Orrell
Amelia Whalley, dau, unmarried, 5, scholar, born Orrell
Sarah Whalley., dau, unmarried, 7, scholar, born Orrell
Jane Whalley, dau, unmarried, 3, scholar, born Orrell

Edit: SNAP, Merry!

Baptism: 20 Jul 1862 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
George Whalley - Son of Joseph Whalley & Mary
Born: 19 Jul
Abode: Billinge
Occupation: Farm Labourer

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possible marriage
Marriage: 16 Dec 1858 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Joseph Whalley - (X), 24, Labourer, Widower, Wigan Lane
Mary Pink - (X), 20, Spinster, Wigan Lane
Groom's Father: John Whalley, Labourer
Witness: Thos. Smalley; Charles Carter

Here is George's baptism at St Aidan's Orrell.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/60...nSearchResults

He was born on 19 July 1862 and baptised the next day. Parents: Joseph Whalley (farm labourer) and Mary Whalley.

Edit: Snap, Allan. You're all blurry fast this morning!

it does look like the right marriage - Mary Pink was born in Orrel as stated on the census return
Baptism: 17 Apr 1824 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Pink - 2 Daur. of Edward Pink & Elizabeth
Born: 22 Feb
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Miner
added
born 22nd feb 1824 - but aged 44 in 1881 - doesn't match ??....

Ah, Allan - that's interesting.

Just been looking at the marriage of Joseph Whalley to Mary Pink at All Saints, Wigan on 16 Dec 1858: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...off=&ml_rpos=1

The record shows that Joseph was a widower (a correction to what was orginially written) and Mary Pink was a spinster. His father was a labourer named John Whalley. The details of her father are not filled in.

This looks like Joseph and Mary Whalley in 1861:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...d=&usePUB=true

Billinge
Joseph Whalley, married, head, 27, labourer at the colliery, born Rainford
Mary Whalley, married, wife, 23, born Orrell
Ellen Whalley, unmarried, daughter, 7, scholar, born Orrell

So Ellen could be from Joseph's first marriage.

Thanks to you for all the valuable info

Hi , I am trying to find the right Whalley. Father of Joseph Whalley who Married Mary Pink . In a previous post someone mentioned the fathers name was John on the marriage online at Wigan all saints in 1858 . I have searched the online parish clerks on Rainford . And only can find one baptism around 1817 of a Joseph Whalley born to Thomas and Ellen Whalley . Could this be the right Father ? Has I want to trace the line back to Rainford any Help out there thanks ? ????