Do you know if Joseph Sayle returned home? I am a little persuaded by a coronial inquest into the death of a Joseph Sayle in Tallangatta, Victoria, in1889, although the suggested age is a little out. I guess I am influenced by a reference to a James Sayle also in Tallangatta in 1883 - but that could be pure coincidence.
I have the coroner's report if you want it.

MacBev

The only one who went home to IoM was Benjamin as far as I can tell so the Joseph you found sounds a good bet to me! Thank you.again.

OC

I am just curious - or nosey - take your pick - 1841 census - did they live in a Guesthouse ??

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
William Sayle
Male
45
Isle Of Man
Ann Sayle
Female
40
Isle Of Man
John Sayle
Male
20
Isle Of Man
William Sayle
Male
13
Isle Of Man
Thomas Sayle
Male
10
Isle Of Man
Benjamin Sayle
Male
4
Isle Of Man
Joseph Sayle
Male
3
Isle Of Man
James Sayle
Male
0
Isle Of Man
Ellin Sayle
Female
18
Isle Of Man
.................................................. ................................................ are these lodgers ?
Daniel Grimshaw
Male
10
England
Robert Kissack
Male
15
Isle Of Man
Ann Edwards
Female
23
Isle Of Man
William Edwards
Male
2
England
Thomas Edwards
Male
0
England
Catharine Caine
Female
35
Isle Of Man

Allan, no, all family! They lived on a farm which had been in the Sayle family for hundreds of years.

OC

ah - right - explains it - thanks xx

obviously - in Liverpool there are loads of Sayle family - IOM being in between Liverpool and Ireland - I know a couple personally - is it an IOM surname or Viking origin ?

Allan

I think it is an IoM surname but possibly originally from Ireland. The Liverpool Sayles are loosely connected to the IoM families. I've traced mine back to 1698 through the farm records but they were there earlier than that. They are a nightmare really as they repeated names all down the generations, plus the fact that the vicar just wrote what he heard, so the Manx surnames have fifty different ways of spelling.

OC