Henry Jones (FMFFF)
 

Name - "official" name and what they were known as: Henry Jones

Date and place of birth: 27 Feb 1824 in Sheffield (given on baptism entry)

Names of parents: William Jones & Mary Marshall

Date and place of baptism: 28 Mar 1824, St Peter & Paul (Cathedral), Sheffield

Details of each of his or her marriages: 5 May 1844 at All Saints Parish Church, Rotherham, to Ann Cutts. Both listed as minors. Fathers named as William Jones, Brazier & Matthew Cutts, Sawyer.

Occupation(s): Silversmith/School Master/back to Silversmith/Electro Plate Worker. (Ive seen changes in occupation before but not as odd as this one).

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!):
1841: Hanover Street, Ecclesall Bierlow (Sheffield), Silversmith, with parents.
1849-1850: Ravenfield, South Yorkshire (Henry Jones, Teacher, named as an occupant of a particular house in Ravenfield during this year. They had a son born in this village.
1851: Low Street, Warmsworth, Yorkshire. School Master.
1854-1859: Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire. School Master named on trade directories and wills of residents within the village. Another child was born in this village.
1861: Village of Greenhill, Norton, Derbyshire. Certified School Master.
1871: Norton Lees, Norton, Derbyshire. Back to being a Silversmith.
1881: Derbyshire Lane, Norton Woodseats. Electro Plate Worker
Cannot find Henry or his wife Ann on the 1891 so both presumed dead.

Date, place and cause of death: 1st July 1888 at Grindleford Bridge, Eyam Woodlands, Derbyshire. Aged 64, Silver Smith. Died of Congestion of Lungs & Chronic Bronchitis. His death registered by Annie Shipston, Granddaughter of same abode.

Date and place of burial: 5th July 1888 at Norton Cemetery, Derbyshire Lane, Sheffield. Grave G1 11. Buried with wife Ann.

Details of will / administration of their estate: None Known.

Memorial inscription: None.

Would anyone be able to offer any advice on if records are kept at all on people who worked as a school master?

Maybe Claire when he turned 50, he decided he had enough of teaching and went back to what he loved doing, which was working with silver.

Thats an interesting thought, you could be right Julie.

Everything about what my Nan said her about this line has turned out to be a load of rubbish but one thing he told her was that the family 'had schools in Wales'. Now, I have found nothing to suggest they did have schools, or even any links to Wales :rolleyes:, but when I saw this occupation for two census', it did stick out to me.

I have no other people in my tree who were involved in schools and it would be lovely to try and find if any records still exist of his time as a school master.

I wonder if there are any apprenticeship records if he trained as a silver smith too?

mmm, that would be something to ask the next time I go to Sheffield Archives. I am not sure if they have the records but they should be able to point me in the right direction if they dont.

Yes it could be worth enquiring about. I was surprised that one of my ancestors had an apprenticeship agreement as a blacksmith.

I have a curiosty in our family tree - and I wonder if you know anything about her ?

In the 1861 census, in Sheffield, living with my husbands two unmarried g-g aunties, Elizabeth and Charlotte Sanderson, is a "nurse child" Hannah Cutts, aged 3. She is with them again in 1871.

According to freebmd, she was born in the Dec Q of 1857. The only IGI entry is for a daughter of Matthew and Ann Cutts, baptised at Gleadless, Sheffield. THere are several Matthew Cutts baptisms in the IGI and I have not explored further.

But I would be interested to know if she is related to one of your Cutts family.

Di

Hi Di

I dont know who Hannah is yet but she could be connected to my tree. I have taken a look at both the census' you mentioned and will look at my tree again. I dont think she is the child you found on the IGI as on the 61 census, there is another Hannah Cutts with her parents; Matthew & Ann, as well as the nurse child Hannah with your Sandersons.

My Matthew and his wife Faith, didnt name any of their children Matthew but they did have a few sons that would be old enough to have a daughter in 1857/8.

If I find a connection, I will send you a message :)

I'm sure there is a website which has a historical database of qualified teachers, but I can't find it! I'm sure I once found a couple of my ancestors on it. I had a feeling it was Family Relatives, but I can't see it on there. I've found some info on Google which says British Origins will soon be making the Teachers' Registrations 1870-1948 available online, but it doesn't seem to be on their site yet.

Bother, I just realised what website it is - The Original Record. It has various lists of "trainee schoolmasters" but because you can only search on surname and you have to pay £6 to view an entry, it would be useless if you're looking for a Jones. I found my ancestors on there because they had a very rare surname.