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Phoenix 14-11-21 21:17

What happened to the Armitages?
 
31st July 1683 and in Holy Trinity Minories:

John Armitage bachelor of St Martin field and Margaret Standish spinster of Allhollowe Barkin maried by Mr Weston.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...39?pId=4674378


Mrs Margaret Armetage, her daughter Ann and Frances Standish (her sister) are named in the will of Ellen Sheppard made and proved in March 1702/3:


https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcr...LLS%2F00146432


Frances brought a case in Chancery against Mary Rowe, widow in 1712, presumably because she still held various valuables belonging to the late Ellen Sheppard


https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C3956289


but Margaret (and her daughter) seem to have vanished without trace.


A Margaret Armitage, wife of John Armitage from black boy alley Chick Lane was buried in 1708,

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=7857617



but I have found this description of the area: https://rictornorton.co.uk/gu05.htm


Ellen Sheppard was the wife of the rector of Sanderstead - can her legatee really have been reduced so low?


Nor do I know what Margaret was doing in Barking: her father was buried in Croydon only six weeks later, on 16 September 1683:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...FBUR%2F0128467


Does anyone have any bright ideas? I would have hoped for a will, but I cannot see one (though London has far many more courts than are online)

Lindsay 15-11-21 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 401829)


Nor do I know what Margaret was doing in Barking: her father was buried in Croydon only six weeks later, on 16 September 1683:

Alhallows Barking is in the City (rather than the Barking in Essex). Perhaps the family lived in the City but her father originally came from the Croydon area and so chose to be buried there?

kiterunner 15-11-21 19:15

I did have a look earlier on but found nothing.

Phoenix 15-11-21 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindsay (Post 401843)
Alhallows Barking is in the City (rather than the Barking in Essex). Perhaps the family lived in the City but her father originally came from the Croydon area and so chose to be buried there?

Thanks, Lindsay, that would make a bit more sense.

Ellen, their aunt, had inherited land in Croydon and Robert Standish came originally from Kingston Upon Thames area, but his children were all born in Croydon. There is nothing, however, to prevent them moving about. It's a challenge as most of the men seem to die young, so I am following females forward in time, and as Ann was the only child of John and Margaret Armitage, I do wonder whether John had left the scene by 1702.

Phoenix 15-11-21 19:43

Thanks for looking, Kite.

Phoenix 18-11-21 21:30

Ellen Sheppard nee French and her sister both originated in Bromley, Kent and Judith Gason, mentioned in Ellen's will, is another married niece. Not that that helps.

Phoenix 20-11-21 16:49

Ellen had a sister Susan and I have now found a burial for a Susan Standish in Bedlam, courtesy of Crossrail in 1685. That might explain Margaret in Allhallows-- not on the doorstep but close at hand .
Does anyone know if other records survive for Bedlam?

Phoenix 20-11-21 19:43

Okay, so Susan is recorded in the burial registers of St Botolphs Bishopsgate in Feb 1685/6

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource


Susannah Standish to Bethlehem.


The admission registers only start in 1683, are on fmp. No trace of Susan, which might mean she had been there several years.


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