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vita 08-10-20 11:10

This might be interesting
 
While sorting out room room this week helper came across some old b & d certs
I hadn't known I'd got. I've done very little on my late mother's side & from
these I discovered that that her paternal line had a long history of working the
canals/rivers around Shopshire & Cheshire. I've done a bit of preliminary work
but don't have any subscriptions at the moment so wondered if anyone could
help fill in the gaps. Also, I just had a look a Rootschat to see if anyone else
was researching the family & a post from earlier this year is about John Potter
'a coloured man' whose daughter Charlotte m a Richard Randles. John Potter
is described as a mariner, working the flatboats around Chester & the name Richard crops up time & again in my mother's line.
Her father was John Randles,b abt 1887, son of Richard Randles, waterman, b Dudleston Shropsire.I've got various Richards, Johns & a couple of Samuels
going back to 1720, but without the means to do any really in depth research.
The 'coloured' I find particularly intriguing. Would anyone be kind enough
to have a go at helping me with this?

Merry 08-10-20 11:15

If you could be a bit more specific about what info you need!

kiterunner 08-10-20 11:26

For ref, this is the Rootschat thread, but I will wait to hear what exactly you want help with:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/inde...topic=802593.0

vita 08-10-20 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merry (Post 381831)
If you could be a bit more specific about what info you need!

Anything, really Merry! I've got dates for various Randles who look like probable family members so its confirmation really I'm looking for to prove I'm
on the right track.
For instance, 'John Randles b 1812 Chester (just a few miles from where my
Mum was born) m Ann Parry 22nd June 1847 St John,Liverpool.'
Or - John Randles b 1762, son of Richard Randles, wet glover b 1720. In 1777 John was apprenticed to John Sorton of Chester,another wet glover.
Just looking to confirm that these are indeed mine.

Merry 08-10-20 11:36

Quote:

Just looking to confirm that these are indeed mine.

We would need to connect them to whoever you are certain of going back from your mother.

So, where does the line go cold going back from her?

vita 08-10-20 11:42

Well, the only thing I know for certain is that John b 1887 was my grandfather, making
waterman Richard of Dudleston my g/grandfather. So not exactly cold, more like tepid
due to me not having the wherewithal to delve any deeper.

Merry 08-10-20 11:45

lol I got that wrong then!! I just looked and thought your John was the one born Q2 1888 with different parents!

Is the 1887 birth cert one of the documents you found?

kiterunner 08-10-20 11:48

Is this the family in 1891?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=1448830


117 Garden Lane, Chester
Richard Randles Head M 44 Waterman Cheshire Chester
Emma Do Wife M 44 Not known
Mary Do Daur S 18 Cheshire Chester
Lizzie Do Do S 6 Scholar Do Do
Richard Do Son S 16 Printer Do Do
Charles Do Do S 10 (?) Scholar Do Do
William Do Do S 9 (?) Do Do Do
John Randles Son S 5(?) Cheshire Chester
Fred Do Do ?? Do Do

I can't be sure what most of the ages say as there are thick lines drawn through them.

Merry 08-10-20 11:48

Or perhaps you have your grandparents marriage cert with that info on it about his father?

Merry 08-10-20 11:49

I do hope it's the family Kate is transcribing as the other lot look difficult!


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