James Saunders (FFFMF)
 

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
James Saunders

Date and place of birth
??? possibly Wolverhampton Staffs

Names of parents
???

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
???

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Caroline Anon going by daughters baptism in 1818

Occupation(s) - if any
Gilder

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
None
1818 daughter Eliza baptism St Peters Wolverhampton

Date, place and cause of death
??
Date and place of burial.
??
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Memorial inscription - if any
??

There is a 55 year old James Saunders living Newcastle Under Lyme in 1841. He is a brewer (is that a standard occ for Saunders...lol).

His wife is Frances but he could have re-married and he has a daughter aged 13 named Caroline.

Not many similarities.......lol

I'll look again tomorrow.

1851 has a James Saunders....wait for it.......a GILDER. Age 59 at Wolverhampton.

Check your pms. I'm off to bed.....will return in a few hours...lol

Yes Libby my James is Gilder he was on daughters baptism in 1818 and also on her wedding cert in 1839 ;; cheers babe will go check mail

I have found this 1841 census which fits in with his occupation and name is transcribed on one of the certs as Sanders what does anyone think ;;but where is his wife unless she dies afer youngest Catherine

James Sanders
Age: 43
b abt 1798
Male

Parish: Wolverhampton
North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
Staffordshire

James Sanders 43
James SandersJunr 11
William Sanders 20
George Sanders 18
Ann Sanders 7
Catherine Sanders 5

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 999; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Wolverhampton; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 15; Folio: 10; Page: 12; Line: 3; GSU roll: 474627

If this is right it would fit in with one Libby found for me in 1851

Which was this one ;;

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2019; Folio: 349; Page: 27; GSU roll: 87422-87423.

but thats also Sanders then would need to find out where Ann and Catherine are

I'm confused, because earlier on I looked at a James Saunders at Horseley Field on the 1851 census, but his occupation was Carrier's Clerk so I thought he must not be the one that Libby found for you as she said he was a Gilder. But that 1841 family are at Horseley Field?

Oops, I was typing at the same time as you!

Kate I saw that one but theres also that one above ;;;

Pass Im clutching at straws

Think I'll have to look at it in the morning, Babs.

Thats ok Kate thanks and will be confussing with me and Merry looking for same names lol

Aha! I thought that the FamilySearch pilot site would treat Saunders and Sanders as close matches, but now I've realised it doesn't always, I've found these baptisms at St Peter Wolverhampton:
William Sanders 26 Dec 1820, parents James and Caroline
George Saunders 9 Jul 1823, parents James and Caroline

But then it gets a bit confusing looking for baptisms for the other children from the 1841 census entry - James jnr about 1829-30, Ann about 1833-4 and Catherine about 1835-6. There are two possible baptisms for James jnr, one with a mother Catherine and the other with a mother Maria, and a possible for Catherine in 1836 with mother Ann.

Then neither of those 1851 families quite fits with the 1841 family!

There is a Caroline Sanders burial at Wolverhampton 20 Feb 1825 but the pilot site doesn't give her age. I would think that's likely to be your Caroline, though.

OH yes would think that is mother Caroline about then as she doesnt show in that 1841 census ;;;you would think name like that would be easy not this dam hard ;;thanks for them Kate ;;

Nudging this one up now as there were 2 dup threads! This one seems to have the most info so will delete the other one.

*confused*

Here is a link to the thread about James's wife Caroline:

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/F...light=caroline

So, looking back through this thread and the one about Caroline, we think this is James in 1851 perhaps with his third wife:

1851: 17 St James Sq, Wolverhampton, Staffs

James Saunders head m 57 carver and guilder journeyman b Dudley, Worcs
Sarah Saunders wife m 48 b Olbury, Staffs
James Saunders son unm 19 b Wolverhampton

Class: HO107; Piece: 2019; Folio: 349; Page: 27; GSU roll: 87422-87423.

His second wife was Ann Maria who he married in 1827 and she died in 1842. I don't think we found the marriage to Sarah yet, will have another look.

Didnt find marriage to Sara no only what info that was passed on to me

I can't find it, sorry.

Npe neither could I Kate and I went through pages and pages