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James18 21-04-16 19:06

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Originally Posted by Merry (Post 318813)
I can't face trying to find the information you probably already remember, so......when did Frederick die?

October 1914, and his soldier's effects form (on Ancestry) gives the name of his widow, Thirza Jane Horne, and states there are no children.

And Cecil wasn't born until 1919/1920 anyway, so...

Merry 21-04-16 19:09

OK, thanks.

Well, we know she hasn't named another man as the father on the cert as there's isn't another entry with the same page number showing us the father's surname. So, as you said, she either pretended Fred was the father, or she didn't give a father's name.

Merry 21-04-16 19:11

I can't see that she was living with anyone in the years she appears on the electoral rolls (1920-30 roughly)

Merry 22-04-16 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by James18 (Post 318809)
Thirza's here in 1939, but I don't have an annual sub.

I'm not sure what you can see without the sub. She is at the address mentioned in her probate entry and has two men living in the house (lodgers?). They are both single, and both general labourers. Their names are Matthew Fagan b 11 Apr 1907 and James McMullen b 22 Sept 1907. Between Thirza and the other two is one closed record which is not mentioned in the household transcript (!). Could be Cecil if he hadn't joined up yet.

Interesting the RAF thought he was 19 when he died when he was actually 22.

James18 22-04-16 11:27

Thanks for that info, Merry. I was able to work out Thirza's date of birth simply by repeatedly trying combinations using the free search. :p

So, as of now we have managed to compile a great deal of information re the Hornes, and I am putting together a family tree for a few relatives of mine. I have gone back to Henry & Charlotte Horn, and John & Elizabeth Watson - George & Eliza Jane's parents. Interestingly, it seems John & Elizabeth emigrated to the US in the 1880s, and both appear to have died in Iowa. Some of the younger children went with them.

What I'm missing is:

- is there a baptism for George Percy Horne anywhere? (doesn't look like it)
- where is (Eliza) Jane Watson in 1871?
- does the image for Percival George Horne & Mary Ann Hale's marriage exist anywhere? (perhaps mistranscribed)

I think that's probably about it. I may yet find random bits and pieces of info (hopefully) and sadly I can't add the US records yet, but that's life.

I just want to say thanks again to you, Kate, Mary and everyone else who has helped me with all of this. I really appreciate it. :)

James18 22-04-16 12:24

Also, does anyone happen to know what parish (CofE) Guildhall St. and Darby Place would have been c1880?

There are several parish books for Folkestone on FMP (baptisms, marriages and burials) but I can't see anything in the book for Christ Church, which is where 'Frederick Hodgson' was baptized. I've looked through the relevant years in that book and can't find any more.

Annoyingly, Herbert Henry (who we can be fairly sure is correct) was baptized simply in Folkestone - no other parish given, and so that could be anywhere. I don't know. I'm not very good with that stuff.

I would like to search for any more entries for this family, but I'm not sure which parish books I should be going through.

Here you can search through:

Christ Church
Holy Trinity
St. Mary & Eanswith
St. John the Baptist
St. Michael
St. Peter
St. Saviour

:|

Merry 22-04-16 13:20

Herbert Henry's baptism image is in this dataset: Folkestone, SS Mary & Eanswith. He was buried at Christ Church.

kiterunner 22-04-16 13:28

The Herbert Henry Horne baptism that you linked to on ancestry is in one of the databases that they were given by FamilySearch, and it gives the film number as 1850119, reference ID item 6, page 244, so the best way to find out more about it is to look that film number up in the catalogue on FamilySearch, which gives more details about what is on the film:
https://familysearch.org/search/cata...tory%20Library

Unfortunately it only says "Parish church of Folkestone" but googling for that suggests that it is St Mary & St Eanswythe.

Edit - I see Merry got there first!

James18 22-04-16 13:29

Found their marriage, Merry: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...030754%2f00479

This confirms their fathers' names!

Merry 22-04-16 13:32

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Originally Posted by James18 (Post 318839)
Found their marriage, Merry: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...030754%2f00479

This confirms their fathers' names!

lol I was looking for Percival's, not that one! Kate posted the fathers names back in post #2!


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