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Phoenix 08-07-20 07:29

Relying on online records
 
There are lots of online records for Norfolk now.
I have families who flit round North Norfolk and end oscillating between Blakeney and Cley.
Looking for the burial of an elderly woman in Blakeney, I did not think that this would be much of a challenge.

It wasn't on Ancestry.
It wasn't on FreeReg

I browsed the baptisms/burials 1807-1812 and could not find them on Ancestry.
I browsed the same records on Family Search.

It appears that who ever filmed the register reached the middle, saw empty pages, and stopped. They did not realise that the burials were at the back.

Sadly, nobody using an index will realise that entries are missing. It's only a handful of years, but it's a period when you get ages, marital status and even parents' names.

I've written to the record office, asking whether there are any transcripts anywhere.

This is an obvious problem, but it is a huge challenge to spot the gaps.

kiterunner 08-07-20 09:08

Findmypast have some Norfolk records which are not on any other site.

Here are their Blakeney burials for 1807 up to April 1809 (end of book):

https://search.findmypast.com/record..._619-4%2f00691

https://search.findmypast.com/record...UR%2F003274965

The 1807 burials start on the page before the one that I have linked to, continuing straight on from 1806. The burial book starts with 1789 and there are no blank pages.

But there must be another book covering the rest of 1809 through to 1812.

Ah, I see - the other book says "Baptisms 1807-1812, burials 1809-1812" at the beginning but the burial images aren't there.

Olde Crone 08-07-20 09:14

Phoenix

In the old days when I used to get film at the LDS family history centre I was often delighted by the finds at the back of the register which had not been transcribed (but had been filmed). I found all sorts that still remain untranscribed to this day - lists of confirmations, children who had NOT been baptised, grave ownership, a couple of excommunications, suicide burials and chatty gossip about goings-on in the parish. Absolute goldmines and I do wonder if anyone else bothered to scroll on to the end.

OC

Phoenix 08-07-20 12:30

I know exactly what you mean, OC. I also know that when I started, I was told to read all the explanatory text, and couldn't be bothered to.

It grieves me that explanation of enumeration districts isn't always available, nor the statistics pages, which I have sometimes checked to ensure nothing has been omitted.

We once visited Hamworthy church (on spec, which you should never do!) and the vicar, besides showing us the relevant entry, also gave us the history of the church and showed us the list of parishioners supplying their own labour to rebuild the church. Not something that fits into a standard search.

Olde Crone 08-07-20 12:43

Yes, one explanatory text recorded the fact that the church had burnt down in 1700 something and services were taken for four years in a nearby parish, thus expaining the gap in the records - not lost, as was confidently declared in various quarters, but recorded in another parish.

OC

kiterunner 08-07-20 19:07

Here are the AT burials for 1809-10 (on Ancestry):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...estry.co.uk%2F

continued on the next image. And then if you browse forwards a few more pages, you will get to the burials for 1810-11 and 1811-12. I think that fills in all the missing years, doesn't it?

Phoenix 09-07-20 09:08

Thank you, Kite! I'll need to check the BTs for the remainder of 1812, but yes it does. Norfolk is one of the few counties where the ATs and BTs are usually exact copies of the registers and, from the 1720s at least, generally survive in their entirety. Stupid of me to forget.

Kit 11-07-20 09:38

what are ATs?

kiterunner 11-07-20 09:58

Archdeacon's Transcripts. Like Bishop's Transcripts but for the Archdeacon instead of the Bishop.

Kit 12-07-20 12:18

Thank you


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